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Preston
Apr 8th, 2009, 07:45 PM

~Preston's Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, 85h, and 86h Values~

Last updated: 10/09/09

~Which game uses these values?~
On R/S/E/FR/LG/CO/XD, none of the hidden values are used. On D/P, only the 85h is used. On Platinum, 44h-47h and 85h are used. On HeartGold and SoulSilver, 44h-47h and 85h-86h are used.

~What are the values for a Pokemon that was migrated from Pal-Park?~
D/P Migration: Set all values to 00
Platinum/HG/SS Migration: Set 46h to 37 (Pal-Park in hexadecimal) and the rest to 00.

~What do the values mean?~
44h and 45h are used for who you recieved the egg from in Platinum/HG/SS.
46h and 47h are used for where the egg was hached at or where the Pokemon was caught at in Platinum/HG/SS.
85h is used to determine how the Pokemon was caught/received in D/P/Pt/HG/SS
86h is used to determine what Pokeball was used to capture the Pokemon in HG/SS

~Do the values change when you trade them to a different game?~
Once a Pokemon's values have been determined by the game, they will never change. This means trading a Pokemon from Diamond to Platinum will keep its regular hex values from Diamond. There are exceptions for Pokemon eggs when they are traded.

Finding the Values:

44h and 45h
44h and 45h will always be 00 if your Pokemon did not come from an egg.
If you obtained your Pokemon as an egg, go to PokeSav and look for the decimal number of where the egg was received at. For example, my Riolu was received from Riley. Riley's decimal value is 2010. (The decimal number is shown in PokeSav right next to Riley.) Now I need to convert 2010 to hexadecimal. If you don't know how to convert, then just use the link at the top.

2010 is 7DA in hex. Egg location and Met location are written from right to left in hex (called little endien).
I'll rewrite 7DA to 07DA to make things easier.

Since we have to read this from right to left, we need to break it in two and then flip the values.

1. 07DA
2. 07 DA
3. DA 07

So the 44h value will be DA and my 45h value will be 07.

46h and 47h
These are found just the same way as the egg locations. Find the decimal number for where your Pokemon was hatched or caught at in PokeSav. My Riolu hatched at Iron Island, and Iron Island is 69 in decimal. So now I just convert 69 into hexadecimal, and I get 45. (0045)

Since we have to read this from right to left, we need to break it in two and then flip the values.

1. 0045
2. 00 45
3. 45 00

My 46h value is 45, and my 47h value is 00.

85h
85h Values are used in Diamond and Pearl too, along with Platinum.

00 - Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey Tree/Shaymin (D/P/Pt)
02 - Tall Grass/Darkrai (D/P/Pt)
04 - Dialga/Palkia (D/P/Pt)
05 - Cave/Hall of Origin/Giratina (D/P/Pt)
07 - Caught in the Water (D/P/Pt)
09 - Caught in Buildings (D/P/Pt)
17 - Distortion World (Giratina) (Pt)
18 - Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon (Pt)
0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/Pt)
0C - Starter Pokemon/Fossil Pokemon (D/P)

My Riolu was in an egg, so my 85h would be 00.

86h
86h Values are used in HeartGold and SoulSilver only to determine the PokeBall. (Thanks to Wylfred for listing them out!) If there is an *, that means the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav should be set to a Pokeball. Never set the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav to any Apricorn balls.

01 = Master Ball
02 = Ultra Ball
03 = Great Ball
04 = Poke Ball
05 = Safari Ball
06 = Net Ball
07 = Dive Ball
08 = Nest Ball
09 = Repeat Ball
0A = Timer Ball
0B = Luxury Ball
0C = Premier Ball
0D = Dusk Ball
0E = Heal Ball
0F = Quick Ball
10 = Cherish Ball
11 = Fast Ball*
12 = Level Ball*
13 = Lure Ball*
14 = Heavy Ball*
15 = Lovely Ball*
16 = Friend Ball*
17 = Moon Ball*
18 = Compé Ball*

My Riolu's Summary:
44h: DA (Egg recieved from Riley)
45h: 07 (Egg recieved from Riley)
46h: 45 (Pokemon was hatched/caught at Iron Island)
47h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched/caught at Iron Island)
85h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched)
86h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched on Pt, not HG/SS)

All the other values you see on Pokesav should be 00. None of them have been used yet.

The Giratina Factor
Giratina, as well as any other Pokemon caught or hatched in a new Platinum, HeartGold, or SoulSilver location, are kind of tricky. This will show you how the game reads these new locations, and how to create them.

First of all, these are the new locations added.

112- Battle Frontier
113- Battle Factory
114- Battle Castle
115- Battle Roulette
116- Battle Stage
117- Distortion World
118- Global Terminal
119- R.A House
120- Match Place
121- Rotom's Room
122- Eterna Galactic HQ
123- Iron Ruins
124- Iceberg Ruins
125- Rock Peak Ruins
2011- Cynthia*

(In Hex)
7E - New Bark Town
7F - Cherrygrove City
80 - Violet City
81 - Azelia Town
82 - Cianwood City
83 - Goldenrod City
84 - Olivine City
85 - Ecruteak City
86 - Mahogany Town
87 - Lake of Rage
88 - Blackthorn City
89 - Silver Cave
8A - Pallet Town
8B - Viridian City
8C - Pewter City
8D - Cerulean City
8E - Lavender Town
8F - Vermillion City
91 - Fuchsia City
92 - Cinnabar Island
93 - Indigo Plateau
94 - Route 1
95 - Route 2
96 - Route 3
97 - Route 4
98 - Route 5
9A - Route 6
9B - Route 7
9C - Route 8
9D - Route 9
9E - Route 10
9F - Route 11
A0 - Route 12
A1 - Route 13
A2 - Route 14
A3 - Route 15
A4 - Route 16
A5 - Route 17
A6 - Route 18
A7 - Route 19
A8 - Route 20
A9 - Route 21
AA - Route 22
AB - Route 23
AC - Route 24
AE - Route 26
AF - Route 27
B0 - Route 28
B1 - Route 29
B2 - Route 30
B3 - Route 31
B4 - Route 32
B5 - Route 33
B6 - Route 34
B7 - Route 35
B8 - Route 36
B9 - Route 37
BA - Route 38
BB - Route 39
BC - Route 40
BD - Route 41
BE - Route 42
BF - Route 43
C0 - Route 44
C1 - Route 45
C2 - Route 46
C3 - Route 47
C4 - Route 48
C5 - Diglett Cave
C6 - Mt. Moon
C7 - Cerulean Cave
C8 - Rock Tunnel
C9 - Power Plant
CA - Safari Zone
CB - Seafoam Islands
CC - Sprout Tower
CD - Tin Tower
CE - Burnt Tower
CF - National Park
D1 - Ruins of Alph
D2 - Union Cave
D3 - Slowpoke Well
D4 - Lighthouse
D5 - Rocket Hideout (Mahogany Town)
D6 - Ilex Forest
D7 - Goldenrod Underground
D8 - Mt. Mortar
D9 - Ice Path
DA - Whirl Islands (Lugia's Chamber)
DB - Silver Mountain Cave
DC - Dark Cave
DE - Dragon's Den
DF - Tohjo Falls
E0 - Viridian Forest
E1 - Pokéthlon Dome
E2 - S.S. Aqua
E3 - Safari Zone Gate
E4 - Cliff Cave
E5 - Frontier Front
E6 - Path to Tin Tower
E7 - Shinto Ruins
E8 - Hidden Tower
E9 - Pokéwalker
EA - Cliff’s Gate
*2011 is the Hall of Fame for D/P/Pt, but when read for where the egg was from, Pt regards it as Cynthia.

Okay, these are the new locations. But how would Diamond and Pearl read these unknown areas? Nintendo came up with a "good" solution.

Here's how to do it:

The first step is to convert your location to hex. I'm gonna give an example of me hatching a Togepi in Rotom's Room.

Rotom's Room is 121 in decimal, and 79 (0079)in hex.

0079
00 79
79 00

So 46h will be 79 and 47h will be 00.

This is where most people screw up. If you are using a new location in Platinum, you must set the place you met at to 3002 (FarAwayPlace).

When the game notices your Pokemon was caught in a Faraway place, it then looks at your 46h and 47h values. If they are both 00, then the game will simply show FarAwayPlace. If they have values, such as my Togepi here, your game will show the hex value location for where the Pokemon was caught.

This way, if you trade Giratina or any Pokemon from a new location in Platinum, it will show up as FarAwayPlace on Diamond and Pearl. (D/P do not read the 46h/47h values at all.)

Please respond with any questions you have, or any part that was confusing to you! I would love to help!
If you have any Information that isn't up here, please tell me!

Special Thanks to:
damio
Sabresite
SCV
ZMaster
Xeomyr
Wylfred

fenzo666
Apr 8th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Nicely done. Stickied as requested.

ZMaster
Apr 8th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Nice to see you back Preston.

Btw Preston, for 85h Dialga/Palkia (Platinum), its still the same 04. I caught both Dialga and Palkia in Platinum, and their 85h was 04, 46h was 33. Hope this helps.

Preston
Apr 9th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Its great to be back! lol
Thanks for the Dialga/Palkia info ZMaster! :) (I just caught them both today anyway lol)

ZMaster
Apr 9th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Its great to be back! lol
Thanks for the Dialga/Palkia info ZMaster! :) (I just caught them both today anyway lol)

Oh, and Honey Tree is DEFINITELY 00 for 85h. In Platinum, that is.

darkfaith
Apr 10th, 2009, 08:02 AM
hmm but how/where can you check for the decimal numbers of ALL the locations and people in sinnoh?

ZMaster
Apr 10th, 2009, 09:10 AM
hmm but how/where can you check for the decimal numbers of ALL the locations and people in sinnoh?

In the Pokesav pokemon edit menu, choose the location. There should be a # in the location box. Convert that number to hexidecimal.

DeltaRay
Apr 11th, 2009, 02:08 AM
would catching a Gastly in the lost tower be a example of of inside buildings (09)?

damio
Apr 11th, 2009, 02:13 AM
would catching a Gastly in the lost tower be a example of of inside buildings (09)?
I would say so.
But I know for a fact that the Old Chateau is an example of inside a building.

From this:

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DeltaRay
Apr 11th, 2009, 03:01 AM
I was curious because when I caught a Gastly it shows up as route 209 but
its actually the lost tower so i wouldnt know if i should of the 02 or 09

xeomyr
Apr 11th, 2009, 01:18 PM
@above me
=_= .. check the decimal value of the place in the pokesav
and convert it into hex ..
u can use window's scientific calculator to do that, it's very simple >_<

DeltaRay
Apr 13th, 2009, 03:46 AM
I think my question was misunderstood but I found an answer (looked in old forums).

Destati
Apr 16th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Preston, this guide is perfect. Perfect in making me afraid of every single Gamefaqs hacker!

But seriously. This helps me a lot in my hacking. I feel like a superior hacker now. Most Gamefaqs pokesavers will overlook this stuff.

Illithian
Apr 16th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Nice thing to note, the new Pt hexadecimal values will soon be placed in legality checkers (if not already) and it will be an excellent way to differentiate between a good hacker and a poor hacker.

I would say, all experienced pokesavers should start putting in all these values regardless where the pokemon was said to come from for safety's sake.

Destati
Apr 16th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Nice thing to note, the new Pt hexadecimal values will soon be placed in legality checkers (if not already) and it will be an excellent way to differentiate between a good hacker and a poor hacker.

Good. I'm afraid the Hex values will be the most-missed details. I wish the next version of Pokesav or Pokemod would automatically set the Hidden Values to their proper locations, but also have a setting where you can change them.

But having the Legality checker ensure things is good as well.

Preston
Apr 17th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Preston, this guide is perfect. Perfect in making me afraid of every single Gamefaqs hacker!

But seriously. This helps me a lot in my hacking. I feel like a superior hacker now. Most Gamefaqs pokesavers will overlook this stuff.

Thanks lol
And DSPokeEdit will put the values in for you automatically if you place the location in the second box too.

Torte de Lini
Apr 18th, 2009, 02:32 AM
DSPokeEdit will do this now? Or in the future?

There seems to be lacking in this guide.
Pokemon from XD/Pal Park don't seem to be mentioned anywhere besides 85h. Is this on purpose?

Edit: I see, so 44h-45h is only for eggs?

Preston
Apr 19th, 2009, 05:57 PM
DSPokeEdit will do this now? Or in the future?

There seems to be lacking in this guide.
Pokemon from XD/Pal Park don't seem to be mentioned anywhere besides 85h. Is this on purpose?

Edit: I see, so 44h-45h is only for eggs?

The hidden values for Pokemon from XD will all be 00, except for the possibility of 46h being 37 (37 is pal-park's decimal) if you migrated through Platinum. If you migrated on D/P, then everything will be 00.

I'll add a bit in describing this, thanks for your question! :D

NarutoEH
Apr 20th, 2009, 06:06 PM
What if the Hexadecimal Code is like this :

Pokemon Event - Decimal : 3060 - Hexadecimal : BF4

How would that be set up to find the 44h-45h values?

xeomyr
Apr 21st, 2009, 12:53 PM
hex BF4
put 0 before B .. so it becomes 0BF4

0B for 45h and F4 for 44h :)

anyway if you put any value in 44-45h ... the pokemon must be an egg or a hatched pokemon

Oh, and Honey Tree is DEFINITELY 00 for 85h. In Platinum, that is.
as you said .. 00 is the value of honey tree pokemon ...
my friend got female combee in platinum and 85h value is 00

NarutoEH
Apr 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM
Oh, sorry...I meant the 46-47h values.

Preston
Apr 21st, 2009, 08:07 PM
Oh, sorry...I meant the 46-47h values.

Then it would be F4 for 46h and 0B for 47h.
But I'm not so sure on the 46/47h values for event Pokemon. They might vary. Check a Japanese Platinum event and see what its 46h and 47h values are.

Preston
Apr 22nd, 2009, 06:11 PM
Oh, and Honey Tree is DEFINITELY 00 for 85h. In Platinum, that is.

You sure about that? (You sound sure lol)
I was almost certain it would be 02...

ZMaster
Apr 22nd, 2009, 06:13 PM
No matter where you catch Honey Tree pokemon, for Platinum, it`s all 00. You want me to catch endless amounts of Honey Tree Pokemon, and show you all of `em?

Preston
Apr 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM
No matter where you catch Honey Tree pokemon, for Platinum, it`s all 00. You want me to catch endless amounts of Honey Tree Pokemon, and show you all of `em?

Nope, I was just confirming lol (I already changed it in the guide)

I'm checking the fossil Pokemon right now.

Zekira
Apr 22nd, 2009, 11:28 PM
I just have one question, though.

What if the egg was hatched in Diamond/Pearl, then transferred to Platinum? Would I need to change the 44-45h values? I'm having doubts about this just now, since I saw that if you migrated from the Pal Park in D/P, I saw that you don't need to change the 46h value? Or am I wrong?

Hm, to make it more simple, I just want to clarify what I would do with the hex values of the following Pokémon:

1.) Linoone gotten from Pal Park in Pearl, traded over to Platinum
2.) Mime Jr. hatched in Pearl, traded over to Platinum

So speaking that both of them originated in Pearl. Would they both go 00 in everything, or would one/both of them change hex values?

Destati
Apr 23rd, 2009, 01:11 AM
you don't need to alter your hex values at all as long as their location is Diamond/Pearl

xeomyr
Apr 23rd, 2009, 12:26 PM
I just have one question, though.

What if the egg was hatched in Diamond/Pearl, then transferred to Platinum? Would I need to change the 44-45h values? I'm having doubts about this just now, since I saw that if you migrated from the Pal Park in D/P, I saw that you don't need to change the 46h value? Or am I wrong?

Hm, to make it more simple, I just want to clarify what I would do with the hex values of the following Pokémon:

1.) Linoone gotten from Pal Park in Pearl, traded over to Platinum
2.) Mime Jr. hatched in Pearl, traded over to Platinum

So speaking that both of them originated in Pearl. Would they both go 00 in everything, or would one/both of them change hex values?

1) if you play in diamond and pearl , then you don't have to change the values except 85h ...
2) if you want pal-parked pokemon traded from pearl to Platinum ... be sure to put 85h value to 00 and all other value to 00
[make sure that the location would be in diamond/and pearl, not platinum .. because ... the platinum thrash byte have not been found ^^]

because some of your question is already answered in the preston's guide ... especially for the hex values ^^

Preston
Apr 23rd, 2009, 04:16 PM
I just have one question, though.

What if the egg was hatched in Diamond/Pearl, then transferred to Platinum? Would I need to change the 44-45h values? I'm having doubts about this just now, since I saw that if you migrated from the Pal Park in D/P, I saw that you don't need to change the 46h value? Or am I wrong?

Hm, to make it more simple, I just want to clarify what I would do with the hex values of the following Pokémon:

1.) Linoone gotten from Pal Park in Pearl, traded over to Platinum
2.) Mime Jr. hatched in Pearl, traded over to Platinum

So speaking that both of them originated in Pearl. Would they both go 00 in everything, or would one/both of them change hex values?

1) All values should be 00.
2) All values should be 00.

Hope that helps! lol

xeomyr
Apr 24th, 2009, 03:09 AM
preston ... recently i checked all the values of my honey tree's pokemon in diamond .. and found out that the 85h value is 00 ..
after that, i checked the honey pokemon from projectpokemon DB .. and they are also 00 for 85h ...
i quite confused why u write 02 for D/P honey tree pokemon ...
it should be all the same 85h value "00" for diamond/pearl/platinum ..

maybe i should make a research for this one XD .. by catching honey tree pokemon at least one in each route XD ...
I will do it if i have free time tonight XD .. hopefully i will finish it by tomorrow XD ...

~Do the values change when you trade them to a different game?~
Once a Pokemon's values have been determined by the game, they will never change. This means trading a Pokemon from Diamond to Platinum will keep its regular hex values from Diamond.

thx for this new information XD .....
i will edit my post above XD

NukaNeka
Apr 24th, 2009, 01:37 PM
i didn't understood how to calc the 46h and the 47h. :S

xeomyr
Apr 25th, 2009, 09:55 AM
After catching each pokemon in each honey tree ( total 21 Honey Trees)
i found that the honey tree 85h value should be 00 in diamond
and it should be the same for pearl :)

anyway preston , check your PM .. there i attach my PKM files of the 21 honey tree pokemons in Diamond
and also they are untouched and legit one ^^

KazoWAR
Apr 29th, 2009, 03:42 AM
We are also still looking for Altered Giratina's 85h value. Please help us out if you know!

I recently started over in platinum, I will make sure to not capture giratina in the Distortion World.

damio
Apr 29th, 2009, 04:07 AM
I recently started over in platinum, I will make sure to not capture giratina in the Distortion World.
That is the ONLY place to catch it.

Guested
Apr 29th, 2009, 04:31 AM
That is the ONLY place to catch it.

*Sigh...

Again, think about things before you make rude posts.
Did you read the previous posts??

You're wrong.

xeomyr
Apr 29th, 2009, 12:21 PM
That is the ONLY place to catch it.
no, if you don't catch giratina in the distortion world,
it will show up in turnback cave (like D/P) .. but no one here in PP, do that =_=
because it kind of waste to catch Giratina in Turnback Cave just like D/P =_=

well i haven't play platinum till now ... because i am waiting for pokeMod first before playing it XD ... but at least i know this kind of stuff :)

Preston
Apr 29th, 2009, 05:37 PM
That is the ONLY place to catch it.

You need to research the topic before you say something Damio, this is the second time you have been completely wrong =/

Destati
Apr 29th, 2009, 05:49 PM
so if he's wrong a third time do we get to kick him?

xeomyr
Apr 30th, 2009, 11:50 AM
I won't do that because he has helped me figuring out the D/P palpark trashbyte XD

Destati
Apr 30th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Yeah, I guess Damio is a pretty cool guy. eh knows about trashbytes and doesn't afraid of anything.

archanfel
May 1st, 2009, 12:49 PM
i just caught giratina from turnback cave :----> 85h=05, 46h=3E

Herol
May 2nd, 2009, 08:53 AM
Do you leave it all 00 for regular grass?

archanfel
May 2nd, 2009, 12:12 PM
Do you leave it all 00 for regular grass?

you would need to calculate both the 46h and 47h first then put 02-----> for the 85h

xeomyr
May 2nd, 2009, 12:34 PM
i just caught giratina from turnback cave :----> 85h=05, 46h=3E
so .. giratina will always be a "cave" pokemon if it was put in turnback "jail" XD

i am kinda feels pity of legendary pokemons, especially for pokemon like this =_= ... why ?? living in the darkness like that , stay out from the world ... can't they go out and just have some fun ... XD

Preston
May 4th, 2009, 05:16 PM
i just caught giratina from turnback cave :----> 85h=05, 46h=3E

Thanks for that information!
So its just like it was in D/P, cool :P

Cip
May 7th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Awesome! This should be on the pokésav info as well:D

KingKirby309
May 9th, 2009, 01:36 AM
if i wanted to make a pkmn in pokesav look like it was traded, as an egg, from pearl to platinum, and then hatched, would i have to use the values for pearl or platinum?

TheKeyMan
May 9th, 2009, 02:58 AM
yea my question is pretty much the same as the guy above me. but for me it has to do with saved pkm files. when i load a pkm file that was saved from the pokesav D/P on the pokesav platinum, do i have to change the hex values accordingly? also, the pkm files hometown are set to Diamond or pearl.

bear831
May 12th, 2009, 02:40 PM
This guide helped me finally understand hex values thank you so much. the guide is very detailed also it doesn't make it hard to understand the concept.

Aarux
May 14th, 2009, 05:31 PM
So, if I make a Shaymin from Flower Paradise, would it have anything it its 85h value?

damio
May 15th, 2009, 01:59 AM
For Pearl, no.
Diamond is probably the same, and I'm not sure about Platinum.

Jayc
May 16th, 2009, 01:49 AM
when i load a pkm file that was saved from the pokesav D/P on the pokesav platinum, do i have to change the hex values accordingly?

It's in the FAQ section:

~Do the values change when you trade them to a different game?~
Once a Pokemon's values have been determined by the game, they will never change. This means trading a Pokemon from Diamond to Platinum will keep its regular hex values from Diamond.

also, the pkm files hometown are set to Diamond or pearl.

Whichever game you want the Pokemon to have come from.

So, if I make a Shaymin from Flower Paradise, would it have anything it its 85h value?

No for all three games. Funnily enough, though, Darkrai's 85h value is 02, even though it technically is an event Pokemon, met in a similar manner as Shaymin. Maybe Preston could add that little tidbit into the guide.

jdelcarp
May 18th, 2009, 02:14 PM
I have a question?
What's the 44h and 45h values for day care couple?
I calculated it to be
44H: DO
45h:07

But when I put it into sav, 44h just returns to 00.

Help?

BaldWombat
May 18th, 2009, 02:49 PM
I have a question?
What's the 44h and 45h values for day care couple?
I calculated it to be
44H: DO
45h:07

But when I put it into sav, 44h just returns to 00.

Help?

44h should be D0 not DO. It should be the number zero.

Preston
May 20th, 2009, 09:04 AM
No for all three games. Funnily enough, though, Darkrai's 85h value is 02, even though it technically is an event Pokemon, met in a similar manner as Shaymin. Maybe Preston could add that little tidbit into the guide.

I wasn't aware that Darkrai's 85h was 02. I'll put that in the guide. Thanks!

GOGAA
May 20th, 2009, 09:48 PM
ok so my decimal is 4 so the hex will be 4
so my 44th will be 04? what about my 45th? 00?

Jayc
May 21st, 2009, 07:50 AM
ok so my decimal is 4 so the hex will be 4
so my 44th will be 04? what about my 45th? 00?

Yes.

Gold88
May 29th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Greetings :D. Is confirmed the 85h value as 05 for Regi's trio in Platinum :D ?

Solo
May 29th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Excellent guide. Thank you very much. My Pokesav Pokemon are much more accurate now

Jayc
May 30th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Greetings :D. Is confirmed the 85h value as 05 for Regi's trio in Platinum :D ?

Yes. The Golem Trio are all caught in caves and all Pokemon caught in caves have the 85h value of 05.

Aarux
May 30th, 2009, 09:49 PM
The 85h Hex 02 is for any Pokemon caught in grass, right?

Whenever I see the term "tall grass" it makes me think of the grass above Solaceon or something.

Jayc
May 30th, 2009, 10:45 PM
The 85h Hex 02 is for any Pokemon caught in grass, right?

Whenever I see the term "tall grass" it makes me think of the grass above Solaceon or something.

Yes.

Supposedly, it's 'tall grass', because that is what some NPCs (especially the regional Professors) use as a term for the grass (both 'normal' and 'very tall') where wild Pokemon appear.

There's grass in many places (or what looks like it) which are just part of the palette of the environment, so 'tall' may be used to differentiate the grass inhabited by wild Pokemon from that.

Acura
Jun 16th, 2009, 09:35 PM
If I'm attempting to make a Pichu from Pokemon Movie 09 am I to put in a special value for the 85h value or is leaving it at 00 with a fateful encounter sufficient? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Acura

Jayc
Jun 17th, 2009, 01:27 PM
If I'm attempting to make a Pichu from Pokemon Movie 09 am I to put in a special value for the 85h value or is leaving it at 00 with a fateful encounter sufficient? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Acura

Non in-game event Pokemon will have the 85h value of 00. I should think that the Pichu would have the Fateful Encounter flag, seeing that it's not an in-game event.

Fate
Jun 17th, 2009, 05:11 PM
I have question: Do you have to set the 46h and the 47h values if the pokemon is still in an egg?

Jayc
Jun 18th, 2009, 10:56 PM
I have question: Do you have to set the 46h and the 47h values if the pokemon is still in an egg?

By right, you shouldn't. The 46h and 47h values of the Pokemon in the egg will be determined by where it hatches, which of course, has not happened yet.

Psycho K
Jun 22nd, 2009, 12:58 AM
~What are the values for a Pokemon that was migrated from Pal-Park?~
D/P Migration: Set all values to 00
Platinum Migration: Set 46h to 37 (Pal-Park in decimal) and the rest to 00.
Just a minor correction here. You meant to say "Pal Park in hexadecimal." I was confused upon reading this and then seeing Pal Park listed in decimal as 55.

damio
Jun 22nd, 2009, 04:10 AM
I'll edit it.

luigispezzotti
Jul 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM
so wait what would be the hex stuff for a pokemon egg obtained from the day care couple and hatched in solaceon town in Pokemon Platinum?

Narwhal
Jul 11th, 2009, 08:38 PM
If I have 3000 as a location, would it be 44h: 08 and 45h:BB?

damio
Jul 11th, 2009, 09:01 PM
44h: 0Bh
45h: B8h
Since it is a 2 byte number, 3000d in hexadecimal is 0BB8h not BB08h

doll
Jul 13th, 2009, 06:09 PM
can anyone tell me if I make an egg, do I still have to edit 44h and 45h? Also, where is the decimal value of 2010?

damio
Jul 14th, 2009, 01:16 AM
If you are making it as a platinum egg, you do.
The decimal value of:
2010 is 2010, since I assume you meant hexadecimal, the hexadecimal for 2010 is 7DA

Demian Chris
Jul 21st, 2009, 02:53 AM
i have 1 question:

what's the hidden hex values for the porygon that you recive in velistone city from the guy?
i mean in the 85h!!

I hope you can help me!! thanks!!

damio
Jul 21st, 2009, 02:56 AM
Most likely Building.
But why dont you edit the number of coins and go buy one to check?

Demian Chris
Jul 21st, 2009, 03:25 AM
Because i only have Action Replay, i dont have a rom, where do you check this?? i had a something called NDS link but my cousin lost it, and i only buy the AR!!

can i check this in my PC??

damio
Jul 21st, 2009, 03:42 AM
can i check this in my PC??
If you had a way to legally get the ROM and run it in an emulator, yes. Otherwise, no.

fallenangemon0
Jul 21st, 2009, 08:02 AM
Ah! So all created pokemon have some sort of Hex Value (even hatched ones)? That'll teach me to leave that blank! I'll go remake all of my pokemon.

Churros007
Jul 27th, 2009, 08:51 PM
I don't think this has been asked, but for Regigigas, is the value for 85h Event or Building?

Doc
Aug 5th, 2009, 06:31 PM
if anyone is looking for an offline hex converter i found a free one that does the job

http://www.xyntec.com/numerimal.htm

Sarutan
Aug 13th, 2009, 12:30 AM
First WoW Great Job EveryOne, Now To The Q. Does My Mattle Ho-oH 46h Values Must BeSet To 37 Now That He Is PalParked To Make It Legit ?? , What About Colloseum/XD Pokes Does That Applies To Them ?? If There Is More To Edit What Can I Do To Make It Legit ??

Guested
Aug 21st, 2009, 01:34 AM
So...

Does anyone want to make a list of all of the locations and their corresponding values? :)

codemonkey85
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:58 AM
Does anyone want to make a list of all of the locations and their corresponding values?

I can do that and put it on the Wiki when I get time. FYI, the entire list of DS locations is stored in my code library. :P

Rose[Idle]
Sep 28th, 2009, 07:33 PM
I read a few post and read over the first post a few times, but still something bothers me. If I use D/P only for Pokesav, The only Value I would have to change is 85h right? But then if I have hatched all my pokemon myself, then I just leave all Hidden Values set to 00 and makes sure the PID is correct.

I am somewhat positive I know the answers to my questions, but I just want to be sure.

wraith89
Oct 4th, 2009, 04:37 PM
;53753']I read a few post and read over the first post a few times, but still something bothers me. If I use D/P only for Pokesav, The only Value I would have to change is 85h right? But then if I have hatched all my pokemon myself, then I just leave all Hidden Values set to 00 and makes sure the PID is correct.

I am somewhat positive I know the answers to my questions, but I just want to be sure.

Yes, if it is from DP, the only hex values you need to change is 85h. The 44h/45h/46h/47h are only relevant for Platinum.

Preston
Oct 6th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Wow its been over four months since the last time I was logged in here! Now that HG/SS have been announced, im pretty sure im coming back for all the action. ;)
So it turns out HG/SS use the 86h value? Im completely clueless on this and i would love for anyone to fill me in on what we know so far, and by this weekend i can start updating this old guide here! ^.^

Poke J
Oct 23rd, 2009, 02:34 PM
Would any one know the hidden value numbers for Pokemon captured on Route 25, and Route 11.

Zowayix
Oct 23rd, 2009, 10:09 PM
The easiest way to know them here is to normally catch a Pokemon on those routes, put them into Pokesav, and check their location values.

Then just copy them over to whatever you are editing.

Bert
Oct 24th, 2009, 06:45 AM
Would any one know the hidden value numbers for Pokemon captured on Route 25, and Route 11.

I think route 11 is 9F 00 respectively.
Route 25 should be AD 00.

Make sure to check it in-game as I'm not sure :).

TheBeunhaas
Oct 24th, 2009, 12:16 PM
I've compiled a list of HG/SS values. If it could be stickied then thanks ;)

Bert
Oct 24th, 2009, 01:10 PM
On a side note, what is the 85h value for Lugia and Ho-oH in HGSS? Are they similar to Palkia/Dialga in D/P or should we just go for "Met in the water" stuff?

TheBeunhaas
Oct 24th, 2009, 01:43 PM
My Lugia's 85h value is 07. I assume Ho-oh's is the same.

Bert
Oct 24th, 2009, 02:34 PM
Since 07 means "caught in the water" I doubt Ho-oH's is the same. Thanks for the info though.

TheBeunhaas
Oct 24th, 2009, 06:00 PM
I can provide you with the data. I have all 16 badges now, so I'll just retreive my Rainbow wing and get going to the Tin Tower ;)

EDIT: Wow, that was quite a battle. Got Ho-oh though, 85h byte is 09

Poke J
Oct 24th, 2009, 11:55 PM
I think route 11 is 9F 00 respectively.
Route 25 should be AD 00.

Make sure to check it in-game as I'm not sure :).
Also the values 9F and 00 for route 11, and AD and 00 for route 25 is being used for my Pearl. So I was wondering if the numbers are inputed in the 46h and the 47h.

Lastly would anyone know the 85h for the Suicune caught in SS and HG.

Bert
Oct 25th, 2009, 04:51 AM
Also the values 9F and 00 for route 11, and AD and 00 for route 25 is being used for my Pearl. So I was wondering if the numbers are inputed in the 46h and the 47h.

Lastly would anyone know the 85h for the Suicune caught in SS and HG.

If you catch it in the Burnt Tower (which is if you faint it on the first try, it respawns there) it will be 09. So 09 is a legit value if you set 46h/47h to Burnt Tower

Jim Reaper
Nov 13th, 2009, 10:09 AM
What is Azelf's 85h then?

Bhik95
Nov 14th, 2009, 05:56 PM
There is the 41h slot who stores HGSS shining leaves values.

Lem_Gambino
Dec 7th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Okay, I'm trying to edit a Pokemon's hex Values for the first time in Platinum Pokesav, and I'm trying to replicate an event Pokemon (Gamestp Deoxys specifically). I know the summary file says "Pokemon Event," but when I look at the "Egg hatched at" locations in the program, I see numbered Pokemon Events (Pokemon Event 06, 07, etc). Which one should I use in creating my Pokemon?

fernandoqr3
Dec 8th, 2009, 03:06 PM
i read that the 87h is the hex value which has the aprishakers stars, i tried to modify that hex value but in pokesav it doesn't appear so my question is anyone know what editor can edit that value and what i have to write???? what numers o letters. (sorry for my english, i don't speak it very well, i'm learning it)

mangaxlr
Dec 14th, 2009, 12:38 PM
hello I'm new here, please be gentle :p

I'm not very familiar with is, but what are the hidden hex that need to be set for legendary?
cresselia?

what pokeball that needs to be set for hatched pokemon?

and pal park hidden hex.

I did read the link at the top explaining hidden hex, but didn't find the answers for this questions :P

deishido
Dec 23rd, 2009, 05:24 PM
:frown: the bytes for HGSS are incorrect...
I mentioned this elsewhere... under the Stickied Thread above this one.
But under the HGSS locations byte 99 is route 5, byte 98 is route 4 and so on... untill byte 94.
You have 94 marked as Route 1
94 is actually Saffron City.
95 is route 1...

does this make sense? if not, im sorry. typing on the wii is hard... :/

Poke J
Dec 23rd, 2009, 10:54 PM
I would like to know the 46h 47h and the 85h for the Dratini that is given to you in the Dragons Den.

Mogely
Jan 5th, 2010, 07:12 AM
86h
86h Values are used in HeartGold and SoulSilver only to determine the PokeBall. (Thanks to Wylfred for listing them out!) If there is an *, that means the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav should be set to a Pokeball. Never set the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav to any Apricorn balls.

11 = Fast Ball*
12 = Level Ball*
13 = Lure Ball*
14 = Heavy Ball*
15 = Lovely Ball*
16 = Friend Ball*
17 = Moon Ball*
18 = Compé Ball*

Sorry for this but I'm just checking I read this right

In the box for selecting the pokeball type (just above the box for selecting the ability) I need to select Pokeball and then set the correct 86h value and this will be an apricorn ball?

What happens if these are then traded to, for instance, Diamond where the 86h value is not read? Will the ball just show as a normal pokeball?

Kaarosu
Jan 6th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Sorry for this but I'm just checking I read this right

In the box for selecting the pokeball type (just above the box for selecting the ability) I need to select Pokeball and then set the correct 86h value and this will be an apricorn ball?

What happens if these are then traded to, for instance, Diamond where the 86h value is not read? Will the ball just show as a normal pokeball?
Yup you got it! And yeah it'll show up as a normal pokeball.

Mogely
Jan 7th, 2010, 05:56 AM
Yup you got it! And yeah it'll show up as a normal pokeball.

seems strange that the balls reverts to a normal ball outside HGSS though, I'm surprised by that

Kaarosu
Jan 7th, 2010, 10:17 AM
its because the apricorn balls weren't programmed in to the games before HG/SS.

Crizor
Jan 7th, 2010, 11:51 AM
So if the the hex value is 4 for salaceon town the hex value is 0004? and the 46h and 47h values would be 40 00 right?

Mogely
Jan 7th, 2010, 06:22 PM
So if the the hex value is 4 for salaceon town the hex value is 0004? and the 46h and 47h values would be 40 00 right?

no 04 00...............i think

damio
Jan 7th, 2010, 07:41 PM
If the value in decimal is 4, the hexadecimal value is 4h, which would mean the 46h value would be 04

Crizor
Jan 9th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Oh my bad i thought we had to flip the values not just swap

randomcouchpotato
Jan 9th, 2010, 09:56 PM
i thought that to till i saw the example

jpfanns
Jan 17th, 2010, 03:08 PM
doubt: what if the pokemon has to abilities, i only found one abilitie to put

ZMaster
Jan 20th, 2010, 09:38 PM
I hatched a received Happiny egg, and when I hatched it all the hex values were 00. Is something off?

randomcouchpotato
Jan 20th, 2010, 09:43 PM
if its from diamond/pearl then no

ZMaster
Jan 21st, 2010, 03:46 PM
Alright then, because the guide mislead me. Thanks.

trance
Jan 22nd, 2010, 09:02 AM
for 85h,
value 02h is applied to Cresselia and Mesprit
value 18h is applied to the gift Porygon in Platinum

Mag-DX
Jan 22nd, 2010, 11:01 AM
Does this guide plan on explainingthe Hex vaules for the Shining leafs in HG/SS?

trance
Jan 23rd, 2010, 12:36 AM
Does this guide plan on explainingthe Hex vaules for the Shining leafs in HG/SS?
Look here (http://www.projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?4930-HGSS-41h-hex-value-Shining-Leaf&p=53257&viewfull=1#post53257) for Shining Leaf values.

Cyndaquil1995
Jan 27th, 2010, 06:42 PM
What is the 85h value for HGSS starters?

Guardna
Jan 27th, 2010, 07:58 PM
What is the 85h value for HGSS starters?

It's 0C.

Cyndaquil1995
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:05 PM
It's 0C.

Thanks

kirasspeaker3
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:18 PM
Great guide, but I think this should be cleared up.

02 Mesprit, Rotom y Darkrai.
05: Uxie y Azelf. Heatran, Regigigas y Giratina. Arceus.
07: Cresselia

also add 18 for that Porygon (an earlier post)

MvT21
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:50 PM
Question for a Wild and Chained pokemon whats the 85h?

Keisuke
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:33 AM
What's a "chained" pokémon ?

MvT21
Feb 2nd, 2010, 12:44 PM
Its finding pokemon for the Pokeradar and tryin to get a shiny

Herol
Feb 7th, 2010, 03:51 PM
This may be known, or not, but 0c or 18 works for a starter pokemon in platinum. My self made infernape, I gave OC and it passes nintendos check for video. My buddies which was game made and edited is 18, and it also passes. So not that its a big deal, but both hex values seem to work.

olly2006
Feb 8th, 2010, 05:25 PM
What is the 85h value for a pokemon caught in the Bug Catching Contest in the National Park?

ibac
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:19 PM
So is Park Ball 19 in hex for 86h?

Yangbo
Feb 28th, 2010, 12:45 AM
What would the 44h-47h values be for Professor Elm?

deishido
Mar 4th, 2010, 04:46 PM
it should be the same as littleroot town. what THAT is, i think it is 7E

ALSO, i mentioned this earlier and it has yet to be corrected...
under the HGSS locations byte 99 is route 5, byte 98 is route 4 and so on... untill byte 94.
94 was marked as Route 1
94 is actually Saffron City.
95 is route 1...

everything else is A-OK. :)

Yangbo
Mar 14th, 2010, 09:05 PM
it should be the same as littleroot town. what THAT is, i think it is 7E

So are you saying if the pokemon is hatched from an egg with the hex value, the game would display "Received from Prof Elm" instead? I'm curious because I want to modify a legit togepi that's hatched from the mysterious egg.
Also what would the hex values be for the eeve that bill gives?

Thanks

Mag-DX
Mar 15th, 2010, 03:21 PM
what is the 85h value for pokemon that came from a pokewalker?

Mar 15th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Hey does anyone know the 44h and 45h values for Mr. Pokemon?
And would the extremespeed Dratini have a 85h value of 05 since you get it from the master in the Dragon's Den?

SteveBob
Mar 15th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Hey, just curious about this stuff. I'm planning to use PokeSav to get me an Arceus. I want it in my Pokedex so I'll need to hatch it from an egg so what do I do about location?

Does it not matter if I say it came from as a ridiculous place so long as the location matches up to the hidden hex values for example or would I have to make it come from the Hall Of Origin and not an egg for it to be legit hex-wise because it's an Arceus?

SteveBob
Mar 15th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Hey, just curious about this stuff. I'm planning to use PokeSav to get me an Arceus. I want it in my Pokedex so I'll need to hatch it from an egg so what do I do about location?

Does it not matter if I say it came from a ridiculous place so long as the location matches up to the hidden hex values for example or would I have to make it come from the Hall Of Origin and not an egg for it to be legit hex-wise because it's an Arceus?

Oh and, as it's an Arceus should I be ticking the Fateful Encounter box or not?

I'm thinking the most legit-looking method is to create it in an Egg for the Pokedex and then after it hatches go back and edit it again so that it looks like I just captured it legit from the Hall Of Origin. Good plan? o_O

ZMaster
Mar 15th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Uhh doesn't matter what you do. Just hatch it, THEN modify it to be legit. Follow the guide on the values, and you're all good.

Or you could just activate the event...

SteveBob
Mar 15th, 2010, 10:18 PM
Great, thanks a lot. What does the fateful encounter box do though?

ZMaster
Mar 15th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Great, thanks a lot. What does the fateful encounter box do though?
It's mainly used by some distributed event Pokémon or in-game specific Pokémon (which is only Shaymin, so far, I think.)

You generally don't need it.

SteveBob
Mar 16th, 2010, 05:14 AM
Awesome, guess I won't need to worry about it for Arceus then :P Thanks muchly ^_^

Mar 16th, 2010, 09:48 AM
so wut do i put in for the 85h value for the pokemon in heartgold

O Mighty Nips
Mar 16th, 2010, 04:52 PM
mind me asking what to do for a pokemon that was hatched in ss?

Preston
Mar 16th, 2010, 08:32 PM
mind me asking what to do for a pokemon that was hatched in ss?

Same as Platinum really

tangramman
Mar 17th, 2010, 04:40 PM
What about Sport Balls, the ones used for the Bug Catching Contest? How would one differentiate those?

deishido
Mar 17th, 2010, 05:53 PM
as to the bug catching contest stuff, edit the hex to show that you used a "competition ball or a park ball" (i dont remember which off the top of my head)

and i have notice that a good many of these questions were adressed in the first post... >.>

tangramman
Mar 17th, 2010, 10:51 PM
as to the bug catching contest stuff, edit the hex to show that you used a "competition ball or a park ball" (i dont remember which off the top of my head)

and i have notice that a good many of these questions were adressed in the first post... >.>
I would, but I've no idea how. I looked in the sticky and no info about them were given. :confused:

deishido
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:51 PM
86h
86h Values are used in HeartGold and SoulSilver only to determine the PokeBall. (Thanks to Wylfred for listing them out!) If there is an *, that means the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav should be set to a Pokeball. Never set the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav to any Apricorn balls.

01 = Master Ball
02 = Ultra Ball
03 = Great Ball
04 = Poke Ball
05 = Safari Ball
06 = Net Ball
07 = Dive Ball
08 = Nest Ball
09 = Repeat Ball
0A = Timer Ball
0B = Luxury Ball
0C = Premier Ball
0D = Dusk Ball
0E = Heal Ball
0F = Quick Ball
10 = Cherish Ball
11 = Fast Ball*
12 = Level Ball*
13 = Lure Ball*
14 = Heavy Ball*
15 = Lovely Ball*
16 = Friend Ball*
17 = Moon Ball*
18 = Compé Ball*

^ from the first post... hope that helps :3

deishido
Mar 18th, 2010, 05:55 PM
so wut do i put in for the 85h value for the pokemon in heartgold

(sorry for double post)

ironicly, i JUST answered that question in my last post. The 85h valuse determine the pokeball, heartgold is no different than d-p-pt.
just replace the number there with the corrosponding pokeball's hex number! (ie: use 04 for a "pokeball")

be genki! :)

Naesoro
Mar 19th, 2010, 12:00 AM
Say I want to have a Pokemon recorded as having hatched at Goldenrod City, do I simply put in 83 into 46h and 00 into 46h, respectively, while leaving the actual "egg hatched at" option at none? Or am I missing a step?

Mar 19th, 2010, 07:55 AM
i thot the pokeball thing was for the 86h value im wondering wut u put in the 85h value like in platinum it was wut location u caought it in or do i leave it blank in hs/ss

Mar 20th, 2010, 10:33 AM
i dont understand wut the 85h value is for hg/ss tho i just see the stuff for DPPt or is it the same?

Felidire
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:29 PM
I'd imagine it's exactly the same in hgss as it is in d/p/pt

Trying to correct as many little mistakes as possible - and i'll change the screenshot each time someone points out an error - until the final image is a good guideline for newbs.

Lucky Dearly
Mar 20th, 2010, 06:22 PM
ah cool

although I have to ask if anybody has found the value for Mr.Pokemon yet? Cause I wanna pokesav the Togepi I just hatched

Cyndaquil1995
Mar 21st, 2010, 01:54 PM
What're the hex values for spiky eared pichu?

Lucky Dearly
Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:22 AM
I think I might have a solution to the Mr.Pokemon value

using no\$gba and a Pokemon Soul Silver rom I loaded my save onto Pokesav

I took notice to three values for the Togepi that hatches from the egg you get from Professor Elm's aide which are as follows

44h - DD
45h - 07
46h - 80
86h - 04

remember to set both met at and egg recieved locations as 3002 (Faraway Place)

these values should help making a legit Togepi from Mr.Pokemon in HG/SS

Ronin
Mar 22nd, 2010, 01:01 AM
I think I might have a solution to the Mr.Pokemon value

using no\$gba and a Pokemon Soul Silver rom I loaded my save onto Pokesav

I took notice to three values for the Togepi that hatches from the egg you get from Professor Elm's aide which are as follows

44h - DD
45h - 07
46h - 80
86h - 04

remember to set both met at and egg recieved locations as 3002 (Faraway Place)

these values should help making a legit Togepi from Mr.Pokemon in HG/SSThanks for sharing your finding with the forum, Lucky Dearly. I see that you have hatched your Togepi in Violet City. Finally, we now know the hex values for Mr. Pokemon.

These are the two values we were looking for:
44h - DD
45h - 07

Lucky Dearly
Mar 22nd, 2010, 06:07 AM
no problem, I was stumped till I got the idea to use a rom save to figure out the values

arsyniiC
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:24 PM
Thank you Lucky Dearly!

I love you :)

sacc5
Mar 23rd, 2010, 03:08 PM
What are the 85h values for pokemon found in the pokewalker and pokemon found from headbutting treres?

DeltaRay
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:20 PM
Is the 85h for starter pokemon(18) in HGSS the same as 85h PT?

DeltaRay
Mar 23rd, 2010, 05:50 PM
NVM i just found it within the thread sigh i think i read it wrong first time

H a z a D i v o
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:20 PM
What are the 85h values you would use for HGSS? They all say for DPPt

Mag-DX
Mar 25th, 2010, 08:44 AM
Is there any speical 85h vaule for pokemon that where caught in the Pokewalker...or is it just 00?

H a z a D i v o
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Specifically, what would the 85h be fore a Mewtwo caught in Cerulean Cave be?

LaxAttack
Mar 27th, 2010, 01:10 AM
What are the 85h values you would use for HGSS? They all say for DPPt

What is it? I'm looking for the same thing.

PokeGuy
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Im not sure bout some things.
First, what is 85h for heart gold soul silver
Second, what if you want it to be a traded pokemon

Felidire
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:28 PM
I think 85h depends where you catch the pokemon, mine is 00 in HG/SS because i breed/hatch them.
So if you wanted it to be a hatched pokemon then there's probably a specific number for a trade.

I'm no expert, but i'd just input the code from where I caught the pokemon in D/P/PT. If it's from Pal Part it's probably 00, but i'm guessing it depends on where you caught it on the original game.

Threshold
Apr 1st, 2010, 12:39 AM
What would the 85h value be for Zapdos, Sudowoodo, Snorlax, and Ho-Oh in HG/SS?
All are not found in tall grass(02). Zapdos is near a building(09) but not inside it. Ho-Oh is found on top of a building, but not inside due to the fact that you can fly away from the rooftop(similar to Zapdos). Snorlax is near a cave(05) but not inside. If you know this, please list the pokemon first, and then their 85h Hex value! From what I see these four pokemon's 85h values in HG/SS do not fit any of the ones listed.

Jedlington
Apr 3rd, 2010, 07:48 AM
Hey, Sorry if i sound like a complete idiot, This is my first time Changing the HEX values ect., I have used Pokesav before, but now with Heartgold I can't create legit pokémon. For example i have been trying to set the Hex values so it says i Have met Latias at route 6, but it still comes up Mystery zone. Everything else works fine i'm just abit confused about what the Hex values For 46h and 47h should be, can anybody help please? Thanks.

Felidire
Apr 3rd, 2010, 05:50 PM
Hey, I was wondering why - when I make legitimately hatched pokemon in HG/SS PokeSAV - they come up as "Daycare Couple // Hatched @ Route 34" for me on my Soul Silver version.

BUT

If I go to a wifi trade, anyone using Diamond or Pearl who inspects them, sees them as "Daycare Couple // FarAwayPlace" -- whereas I see their Sinnoh-bred pokemon as "Daycare Couple // Hatched @ Route 300"

Is that normal? or does the HGSS actually need updating like i've been suggesting for ages?

Schyzm
Apr 3rd, 2010, 09:26 PM
Hey just posted in the other topic,just lokin for help. So what would the location/values/w/e it is be for pokemon you traded from Platinum?

H a z a D i v o
Apr 4th, 2010, 07:55 AM
OMG! Does anyone have any answers to anyones questions?! I have checked this everyday for two weeks and there are just questions piling up...

Ronin
Apr 4th, 2010, 03:00 PM
Specifically, what would the 85h be fore a Mewtwo caught in Cerulean Cave be?The 85h would be "05." I don't think Mewtwo is a Pokemon that's triggered by event like Darkrai, Shaymin, Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina (Platinum).These values are actually for HGSS too.

00 - Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey Tree/Shaymin (D/P/Pt)
02 - Tall Grass/Darkrai (D/P/Pt)
04 - Dialga/Palkia (D/P/Pt)
05 - Cave/Hall of Origin/Giratina (D/P/Pt)
07 - Caught in the Water (D/P/Pt)
09 - Caught in Buildings (D/P/Pt)
17 - Distortion World (Giratina) (Pt)
18 - Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon (Pt)
0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/Pt)
0C - Starter Pokemon/Fossil Pokemon (D/P)

What are the 85h values you would use for HGSS? They all say for DPPt
What is it? I'm looking for the same thing. Most of the 85h values are actually for HGSS too, as the author just forgot to edit them. However, I do believe we need to wait for the 85h values for Lugia, Ho-Oh, and possibly Suicune. I think they may have their own sets of 85h like Dialga, Palkia, Shaymin, and Giratina (Platinum).

Im not sure bout some things.
First, what is 85h for heart gold soul silver
Second, what if you want it to be a traded pokemon The 85h depends on what kind of terrain you caught your Pokemon in. If it were hatched from an egg, then the 85h would be "00." Below is the list of number for each kind of terrain.

00 - Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey Tree/Shaymin (D/P/Pt)
02 - Tall Grass/Darkrai (D/P/Pt)
04 - Dialga/Palkia (D/P/Pt)
05 - Cave/Hall of Origin/Giratina (D/P/Pt)
07 - Caught in the Water (D/P/Pt)
09 - Caught in Buildings (D/P/Pt)
17 - Distortion World (Giratina) (Pt)
18 - Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon (Pt)
0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/Pt)
0C - Starter Pokemon/Fossil Pokemon (D/P)

Hey, Sorry if i sound like a complete idiot, This is my first time Changing the HEX values ect., I have used Pokesav before, but now with Heartgold I can't create legit pokémon. For example i have been trying to set the Hex values so it says i Have met Latias at route 6, but it still comes up Mystery zone. Everything else works fine i'm just abit confused about what the Hex values For 46h and 47h should be, can anybody help please? Thanks.The hex value of "Route 6" is "9A." The 46h should be "9A." The 44h, 45h, and 47h should be "00." The 85h and 86h would depend on what kind of terrain you caught your Latias in and what Pokeball you used. The rest of informations are on the front page of the guide.

Hey, I was wondering why - when I make legitimately hatched pokemon in HG/SS PokeSAV - they come up as "Daycare Couple // Hatched @ Route 34" for me on my Soul Silver version. BUT
If I go to a wifi trade, anyone using Diamond or Pearl who inspects them, sees them as "Daycare Couple // FarAwayPlace" -- whereas I see their Sinnoh-bred pokemon as "Daycare Couple // Hatched @ Route 300"
Is that normal? or does the HGSS actually need updating like i've been suggesting for ages? Yes, that is normal. The Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum version will see "Daycare Couple/Far Away Place" instead of "Daycare Couple/Route 34."

Hey just posted in the other topic,just lokin for help. So what would the location/values/w/e it is be for pokemon you traded from Platinum?You would still use the location found in Sinnoh region. The name of locations such as the "Oreburgh Mine", "Route 203", "Valley Windworks", and etc. would still appear in HGSS. It's only when you traded Pokemon from HGSS over to DPPt that the location becomes "Far Away Place." Try trading over Pokemon from DDPt over to HGSS and you should get the same result.

OMG! Does anyone have any answers to anyones questions?! I have checked this everyday for two weeks and there are just questions piling up... The answers to most of the questions should be found in the guide. I will try to answer a few because trying to answer all of them is tedious. It's not like we have to answer every questions with the same thing over and over.

xbrosss
Apr 4th, 2010, 07:46 PM
mm this is really useful, but i still have a question...

what are the 44th and 45th for a traded egg??

for example, my togepi summary says

Dec.10, 2009
Mr. Pokémon

Dec.12, 2009
Goldenrod City
Egg apparently...

but i put some eggs with pokesav in other game and when hatched said:

Apr. 4, 2010
Cherrygrove City
Met at Lv. 0.

So i want it to say:

Apr.4, 2010

Apr.4, 2010
Cherrygrove City
Egg appa...

TestDemo
Apr 6th, 2010, 09:20 AM
Hello

I am trying to Pokesav a Snorlax, but I want to make it from the Pokewalker. If I am correct, the 44h & 45h should be 00, right? And the 46h and 47h should be E9 and 00? But what are the 85h and 86h values for Pokewalker Pokemon? Even if I presume that 86h is 04, what is 85h?

Poke J
Apr 7th, 2010, 01:28 AM
For the Suicune that wound be caght on route 25 would 85h be 02 thought it is not in grass just like darkrai

TestDemo
Apr 7th, 2010, 05:26 AM
For the Suicune that wound be caght on route 25 would 85h be 02 thought it is not in grass just like darkrai

No, its 00 because it is an event.

Poke J
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Hello

I am trying to Pokesav a Snorlax, but I want to make it from the Pokewalker. If I am correct, the 44h & 45h should be 00, right? And the 46h and 47h should be E9 and 00? But what are the 85h and 86h values for Pokewalker Pokemon? Even if I presume that 86h is 04, what is 85h?

From what I under stand the 85h should be 00 since the pokemon was not caght in grass or in a cave or in a building and most defently not given to you by some one so it only leaves the 00 value

TestDemo
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:04 AM
From what I under stand the 85h should be 00 since the pokemon was not caght in grass or in a cave or in a building and most defently not given to you by some one so it only leaves the 00 value

I read somewhere else that someone checked on a pokemon actually obtained from the pokewalker and that the 85h was 00 and the 86h is 04. 44h & 45h are clearly 00 and 46h should be E9, and 47h 00. I believe that as I have done this I can now have a legitimate selfdestruct Snorlax.

deezenuts
Apr 13th, 2010, 05:57 PM
Here are some new values I found on my Soul Silver.

A Ho-Oh caught in Tin Tower with the Rainbow Wing @ Lv70 in Soul Silver gives you :
85h - 09 Caught in Buildings

A Lugia caught in Seafom Island with the Tidal Bell @ Lv45 in Soul Silver gives you :
85h - 07 Caught in the Water

A Giratina hatched in Sinjoh Ruins with Event Arceus @ Lv1 in Soul Silver gives you :
85h - 18 Starter Pokemon (???)

Hopefully you could add this somewhere

Quantumpencil
Apr 15th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Wonderful thread; I've a couple of questions.

Should the 86h value for a pokemon hatched in HG/SS be 04, or 00?

And does anyone know the 85h value for a Zapdos caught on Route 10?

Rurik
Apr 16th, 2010, 01:02 AM
Read through the entire thread and didn't find the information I was originally after, so decided to play around with the hex values myself, didn't take too long as it turns out. Thought I'd share it in the event anyone else is interested, the hex values to create an egg received from Primo (the guy in the Violet Pokemon center, gives out Mareep and Wooper eggs, and some Pokemon yet to be revealed, if you give him the right secret phrase based on your normal trainer ID) are 44h: DE and 45h: 07.

TestDemo
Apr 16th, 2010, 12:49 PM
Wonderful thread; I've a couple of questions.

Should the 86h value for a pokemon hatched in HG/SS be 04, or 00?

And does anyone know the 85h value for a Zapdos caught on Route 10?

The 86h for hatched pokemon is 04. Zapdos 85h is 00. Please can the Topic poster amend their post, because the information written is wrong. For PalParked HG/SS Pokemon, the Met In Place is 55, this should be posted as others may erroneously use 3002, the 46h is 37 but most importantly the 86h is the hex value for the Pokeball the Pokemon was originally caught in, the initial post claims it is 00. This is wrong.

Jimera
Apr 17th, 2010, 07:11 PM
I'm trying to re-create the red Gyarados I traded to a friend, so I downloaded a Gyarados .pkm file from the database, opened it with Pokesav and changed the OT name, gender, TID and SID to match those of my retail SoulSilver save file. I used the PID/IV generator to calculate a legitimate shiny PID and IV set for this Gyarados and made sure all the other details added up correctly.
I've read through this thread and double-checked that all of this Gyarados' Hidden Values match up to what they should be according to the info in the first post. They do, but I note that when I run the .pkm file through the legality checker, it returns it as "Normal NDS Type [A-B-C-D]" but does NOT say "Sync: Valid" as it does for all the other .pkm files I've obtained from the database. When I send this Pokemon to my retail SoulSilver cart via SendPKM, on its status screen where it shows the level at which it was met, it says "Apparently met at level 30" instead of "Met at level 30." This is a giveaway that the Pokemon did not in fact originate from my retail cart's save file even though the OT, TID and SID are identical.

I'd be eternally grateful if anyone could provide some insight as to what I need to change to make the Pokemon "originate" from my own save file.

deishido
Apr 17th, 2010, 08:52 PM
thats an interesting problem... hmmm... raincheck? lol, i dont see why it says that, mabie there was an error made somwhere. check your data and try again mabey?

Jimera
Apr 17th, 2010, 11:00 PM
I have no idea what's going on. Someone told me in another thread that the red Gyarados in HG/SS is a chained shiny, so I used the PID calculater to give it a chained shiny ID. The legality checker tells me its "Chained Sync" is valid now, but it STILL says "Apparently met..." and not "Met at..."

I've uploaded the .pkm file in case anyone wants to take a look at it and see if they can find what I did wrong....

LucarionFan93
Apr 17th, 2010, 11:50 PM
What if i put in Pokemon Movie #? Do i still put in the Hex values?

final_aeon
Apr 18th, 2010, 10:41 PM
Hey everyone. I noticed that there have been a lot of repeat questions and I hope mine are not and can be answered.

1. Does the 85th value 00 ("event") cover Pokewalker, headbutt, and interactable Pokemon (like Snorlax)?

2. When making Pokemon in PokeSav, do you HAVE to put in the 86th value when they are caught in a non-Apricorn ball?

3. Surfing takes precedence over being in a cave?

4. Are the hex values for gift Pokemon (like Bill's Eevee or extremespeed Dratini or the gift Shuckle) also 00 for event?

TestDemo
Apr 19th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Hey everyone. I noticed that there have been a lot of repeat questions and I hope mine are not and can be answered.

1. Does the 85th value 00 ("event") cover Pokewalker, headbutt, and interactable Pokemon (like Snorlax)?

2. When making Pokemon in PokeSav, do you HAVE to put in the 86th value when they are caught in a non-Apricorn ball?

3. Surfing takes precedence over being in a cave?

4. Are the hex values for gift Pokemon (like Bill's Eevee or extremespeed Dratini or the gift Shuckle) also 00 for event?

1. In another thread someone who actually opened a Pokewalker Pokemon in Pokesav said the 85h is 00 and the 86h is 04.
2. As long as they were caught or bred in Pokemon HG/SS, or Pal Parked to Pokemon HG/SS. then yes.
3. Is this about Lugia? If surfing in a cave and you encounter a Pokemon then the 85h should be cauught while surfing or something to that degree.
4. I do not know about the shuckle but Bill's eevee has 18 for the 85h.

Apr 19th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Hello

I am trying to Pokesav a Snorlax, but I want to make it from the Pokewalker. If I am correct, the 44h & 45h should be 00, right? And the 46h and 47h should be E9 and 00? But what are the 85h and 86h values for Pokewalker Pokemon? Even if I presume that 86h is 04, what is 85h?

You have to do more than modify the values of 44h and 45h. The PIDs generated are in the form D5FFFF??, where ?? is any value from 00 to FF. However, the value of ?? is also dependent on the course. For instance, all the Winner's Road Pokemon are restricted to E8-FF, which is one way to get a Snorlax. (I don't have enough data to be sure of that E8 lower bound.) I don't know if the Quiet Cave Munchlax has the same restrictions for ??.

EDIT: Oh darn, that original post was like a week old.

Bledan
Apr 19th, 2010, 08:22 PM
Hi guys! Does anyone know which are 44h-45h for the Day Care Couple in HG/SS? :)

And, by the way, what about 86h for hatched pokčmons? Should it be 04 (Pokčball)? And 85h is 00, isn't it?

Aarux
Apr 19th, 2010, 08:55 PM
The 44h and 45h would be the same as D/P/Pt: 44h is D0, 45h is 07.

86h would be 04 for hatched HG/SS Pokemon, since they're in a Pokeball. And 85h would be 00, yes.

Hucz
Apr 19th, 2010, 10:22 PM
I used an Action Replay code to capture Red's Blastoise (in Mt. Silver) and noticed that his 85h value was "06". Any idea what this one means?

SmellTheBurningEmber
Apr 20th, 2010, 05:05 PM
What would the 85h value be if I bought an Eevee at the Celadon Game Corner in HG/SS? ~STBE

angelcat621
Apr 20th, 2010, 06:06 PM
What would the 85h value be if I bought an Eevee at the Celadon Game Corner in HG/SS? ~STBE

18

SmellTheBurningEmber
Apr 20th, 2010, 06:16 PM
Thanks. So my values would be:

46h: 90
85h: 18
86h: 04

Correct? ~STBE

P.S. Off topic, but what are the hometowns for HG and SS?

Rurik
Apr 20th, 2010, 10:50 PM
Johto (Heart of Gold) or Johto (Soul of Silver) depending on which version you're playing.

Question of my own since I'm not positive, and don't recall seeing it asked already, would the secondary "starters" received after getting all 16 badges (the Hoenn and Kanto starters) have an 85h of 18, or 0C like the actual starters you get from Elm at the start of the game?

Hippyx420x
Apr 21st, 2010, 03:10 AM
is there a way to get route 34, everytime i put in B6 i get the daycare couple

Rurik
Apr 21st, 2010, 04:53 AM
Are you sure you're putting it in the 46h slot and setting the met at location in the drop box to Faraway Place (3002)?

Yangbo
Apr 22nd, 2010, 06:19 AM
I been trying to make a legit Spiky Eared Pichu PKM with the PokeGen, when I uploaded the file on Pokesav, I noticed that the 85h value was 18 so does it mean SEP has the same values as Bebe's eevee, etc , or is the value incorrect?

TestDemo
Apr 22nd, 2010, 10:12 AM
The 86h for hatched pokemon is 04. Zapdos 85h is 00. Please can the Topic poster amend their post, because the information written is wrong. For PalParked HG/SS Pokemon, the Met In Place is 55, this should be posted as others may erroneously use 3002, the 46h is 37 but most importantly the 86h is the hex value for the Pokeball the Pokemon was originally caught in, the initial post claims it is 00. This is wrong.

Is this due to laziness on the partof the post creator? What I have said still has not been amended to the first post. The Pal Park 86h for HG/SS is still listed as 00 even though the 86h depends on the Pokeball caught in. Technically that means that the guide contains erroneous data.

Aarux
Apr 22nd, 2010, 04:48 PM
Preston's Last Activity: Mar 17th, 2010. Your post was made... 6 days ago, April 16, I think.

It's safe to assume that the creator of this thread hasn't been on to modify that since you posted it...

Yangbo
Apr 23rd, 2010, 02:44 PM
is there a way to get route 34, everytime i put in B6 i get the daycare couple

If your pokemon was hatched (guessing it is)
You got got to assign the met location to 3002 and the 46-47h value to B6 and the other location to 2000, 44-45h to D0,07.

Sorry for the repost but does anyone know the 85h hex values of Spiky Eared Pichu? Also just a suggestion for the legal checker, it should be able to check all the hex values and see if it's a possible combination with each pokemon. I think that would be very helpful to everyone.

Nurio
Apr 23rd, 2010, 08:00 PM
I have no idea what's going on. Someone told me in another thread that the red Gyarados in HG/SS is a chained shiny, so I used the PID calculater to give it a chained shiny ID. The legality checker tells me its "Chained Sync" is valid now, but it STILL says "Apparently met..." and not "Met at..."

I've uploaded the .pkm file in case anyone wants to take a look at it and see if they can find what I did wrong....
All I can think of is
- Make sure the "Date met" is at a later date than you have actually started the game
- The Class when you generate a PID should be Class 1 and not Class 2

Kazahaya
Apr 25th, 2010, 09:40 AM
If I'm generating the pokemon on Diamond but transferring it over to HG, do I need to bother with anything but the 85h value? In other words, are the 44h, 45h, 46h, and 47h values "00" on Diamond or are they specific numbers that aren't read by the D/P games, but read by HG/SS?

Rurik
Apr 25th, 2010, 02:19 PM
From the first post.

~Which game uses these values?~
On R/S/E/FR/LG/CO/XD, none of the hidden values are used. On D/P, only the 85h is used. On Platinum, 44h-47h and 85h are used. On HeartGold and SoulSilver, 44h-47h and 85h-86h are used.

drakevin
Apr 27th, 2010, 03:26 AM
I'm really sorry for this question but what do Hex Values do? I'm thinking they're used for legality. If not, are they really necessary to have when making a pokemon in Pokesav? Thanks

Rurik
Apr 27th, 2010, 11:52 AM
It depends on which version of the game you're playing, in Diamond and Pearl only 85h is used, which is used for where the Pokemon was caught/received, for example whether it was caught in the grass, received as a starter, hatched from an egg, etc. From Platinum and on, in addition to 85h 44-47h are also used, 44h and 45h being used only for eggs and being where they were received from, Daycare Couple, Riley, etc. 46h and 47h are for the met at location, meaning where you caught, received, or hatched the Pokemon. A Pokemon in any of these three games will pass the legal check on Battle Revolution and WiFi and what not without bothering, and will look perfectly legal at a glance as long as nobody Pokesavs it and checks the hex values you wouldn't notice a difference. However, in Heart of Gold and Soul of Silver they're vital as the current version of Pokesav doesn't include Johto and Kanto locations in the drop boxes, so you have to set the met at location to Faraway Place and manually imput the hex values for where the Pokemon was met, you also have to select the regular Pokeball from the drop box, no matter what Pokeball it will actually be in, and input the hex value for the Pokeball in 86h. The reason for this is mostly compatibility I assume. The Sinnoh games don't have Apricorns nor Apricorn balls, they also don't have the Johto and Kanto locations, so the hidden hex values are used to make it so a Pokemon from Johto caught with a Heavy Ball will properly display in Heart of Gold and Soul of Silver, while if it's traded to the older games they'll simply ignore them and will display the Pokemon as being caught in a regular Pokeball and coming from a Faraway Place.

pensoftware
Apr 27th, 2010, 09:45 PM
What are the 85h values if you want the Pokemon to say it was caught through Hoenn Sound?

EDIT: What's the 85h value if it is caught through swarm?

drakevin
Apr 27th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Hmm so it's alright not to mess with the Hidden Hex values anymore in D/P/Pt but not in HG/SS?

Even so, I've put hex values on Pokesav pokemons on my Platinum. XD

skyhigh402
Apr 29th, 2010, 04:40 AM
If your pokemon was hatched (guessing it is)
You got got to assign the met location to 3002 and the 46-47h value to B6 and the other location to 2000, 44-45h to D0,07.

Sorry for the repost but does anyone know the 85h hex values of Spiky Eared Pichu? Also just a suggestion for the legal checker, it should be able to check all the hex values and see if it's a possible combination with each pokemon. I think that would be very helpful to everyone.

So, you would put B6 in both the 46h and 47h slots?

Sorry, I'm trying to get this all down so I don't accidentally mess up my game.

Met in Place should be set to FarawayPlace

What about the "egg hatched at".. should that be farawayplace also?

Demonhitaru1
Apr 29th, 2010, 03:56 PM
Ok, Lets say I am using the PokeSav to give myself pokemon not hatched from eggs. I want a Typhlosion that looks completely legit and it has to say "New Bark Town". How do I go about doing this? What do I do to ensure that the game says that the pokemon was received at "New Bark Town"? I want the Typhlosion to look as though it was the pokemon I chose at the beginning of the game. (The game is SoulSilver incase that information is needed.)

Yangbo
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Ok, Lets say I am using the PokeSav to give myself pokemon not hatched from eggs. I want a Typhlosion that looks completely legit and it has to say "New Bark Town". How do I go about doing this? What do I do to ensure that the game says that the pokemon was received at "New Bark Town"? I want the Typhlosion to look as though it was the pokemon I chose at the beginning of the game. (The game is SoulSilver incase that information is needed.)

Change the hex values for met (46-47h) to match New Bark Town, I think its 7E.

Rob the vast
May 1st, 2010, 06:18 PM
I am trying to edit my palkia to be the one from the arceus event.

Sofar i got for my hex's:
46h-E7 (Shinjoh Ruins)
85h-18 (Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon)
86h-04 (Pokeball)

Am i missing anything? Is the pokemon ACTUALLY an egg when it comes to hex values, thus giving it a 44/45 hex and 46/47 hex for location?

Yangbo
May 3rd, 2010, 03:46 AM
I am trying to edit my palkia to be the one from the arceus event.

Sofar i got for my hex's:
46h-E7 (Shinjoh Ruins)
85h-18 (Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon)
86h-04 (Pokeball)

Am i missing anything? Is the pokemon ACTUALLY an egg when it comes to hex values, thus giving it a 44/45 hex and 46/47 hex for location?

I'm curious myself, why would the 85h value be 18 though?

Guardna
May 3rd, 2010, 01:07 PM
I'm curious myself, why would the 85h value be 18 though?

Well the game developers decided that the 85h offset serve a new purpose in HGSS, the Eevee given by Bill has 18 too for that offset.

Yangbo
May 5th, 2010, 02:12 AM
Well the game developers decided that the 85h offset serve a new purpose in HGSS, the Eevee given by Bill has 18 too for that offset.

Yeah I just extracted the lvl 1 giratina and Spiky Eared Pichu and both of their 85h values are 18.

unicorn
May 8th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Here's a hex key I made for the pokeballs:

http://i39.tinypic.com/mre1sp.jpg

jhedzkie24
May 11th, 2010, 09:50 AM
just an idea on hgss. in pokemon edit, we can just put the DECIMAL value of the Location on the Met at Place box in the edit pokemon part of the pokesav.

its like

7E - New Bark Town - 126

we can just put 126 on the text box beside met at place. it worked for me.

ArchAngelSuriel
May 15th, 2010, 02:04 PM
To make these values work, do you have to use the Plat Pokesav or the HG/SS Pokesav?

jhedzkie24
May 16th, 2010, 02:00 AM
hg/ss pokesav. and then

the generated AR code, the second line

change B2110DC0 00000000 to B2111880 00000000

that should work

Dk Gymnast
May 16th, 2010, 10:43 PM
What would the 46 and 47th values be for the (Hoenn) starters received from Steven at Silph co after beating Red on top of Mount Silver? And also what would be the 46 and 47th values for the sinnoh starters that are received in Platinum, Diamond, and Pearl?

SmellTheBurningEmber
May 23rd, 2010, 07:12 PM
What would the 85 value be for the Dragon's Den ExtremeSpeed Dratini be? ~STBE

Poke J
May 23rd, 2010, 09:48 PM
What is the 85h for raquaiza caught in the embeded tower

Tbird
May 23rd, 2010, 10:26 PM
What is the 85h for raquaiza caught in the embeded tower

I imagine the 85h would be 05 as it's a cave?

Pseudonym
May 24th, 2010, 02:19 AM
Hey guys :), thank you for the abundance of assistance potentially offered in this thread...

I have been working on a Deoxys, and am having some little difficulty...

1. HEX value of Birth Island, and as it's not in HG/SS, would it simply read Faraway Place? I am endeavoring to create a "traded" deoxys...

2. I used PokeGen (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?6424-Pokemon-Generator-%28Pokesav-replacement-for-Pokemon-editing%29) to create some hex data with a freshly created deoxys, and utilized "far away place" and "pal park",

However, for the 46h value, it reads "BA", which, according to this thread, is a Route...
The 47h Value reads "0B", which i am unable to find much information on, currently, and then the 86h value "04" for a pokeball...

Clarification and / or potential assistance upon the aforementioned might potentially be appreciated :)...

Codr
May 24th, 2010, 04:30 AM
I used PokeGen (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?6424-Pokemon-Generator-%28Pokesav-replacement-for-Pokemon-editing%29) to create some hex data with a freshly created deoxys, and utilized "far away place" and "pal park",

However, for the 46h value, it reads "BA", which, according to this thread, is a Route...
The 47h Value reads "0B", which i am unable to find much information on, currently, and then the 86h value "04" for a pokeball...

Clarification and / or potential assistance upon the aforementioned might potentially be appreciated :)...
0x46 is a 2-byte value. Faraway Place is 3002, or 0xBBA. The data is being written correctly based on your input.

I don't know which values are appropriate for what you're trying to do, though.

Pseudonym
May 24th, 2010, 12:16 PM
0x46 is a 2-byte value. Faraway Place is 3002, or 0xBBA. The data is being written correctly based on your input.

I don't know which values are appropriate for what you're trying to do, though.

Thank you, Codr :)...

What i am endeavoring to do is create a seemingly legitimate Deoxys that was caught on birth island in Emerald, migrated into platinum, then traded to HG/SS...

PS. Thank you for the hard work invested into PokeGen, it's really a very nifty piece of software :)...

So, i guess some of the confusion might potentially stem from where the 46h BA was generated. In pokegen, it was nothing but pal park and faraway place, so why then is 46h BA generated?

in HG/SS, 46h BA is seemingly Route 38...

And the 47h 0B...? if anyone cares to elaborate :)...?

SmellTheBurningEmber
May 24th, 2010, 09:20 PM
What would the 85 value be for the Dragon's Den ExtremeSpeed Dratini be? ~STBE

Bump. ~STBE

Pseudonym
May 25th, 2010, 12:51 AM
Bump. ~STBE

Just received Dragon's Den Dratini with Extreme Speed, Saved, Downloaded save to a computer, opened save in pokesav, checked...

85h - "18"...

Luck to you :)...

SmellTheBurningEmber
May 25th, 2010, 09:28 AM
Just received Dragon's Den Dratini with Extreme Speed, Saved, Downloaded save to a computer, opened save in pokesav, checked...

85h - "18"...

Luck to you :)...Okay. So the 46 is DE, 85 is 18, and 86 is 04, correct? ~STBE

Codr
May 25th, 2010, 10:42 AM
So, i guess some of the confusion might potentially stem from where the 46h BA was generated. In pokegen, it was nothing but pal park and faraway place, so why then is 46h BA generated?

in HG/SS, 46h BA is seemingly Route 38...

And the 47h 0B...? if anyone cares to elaborate :)...?
You don't need to worry about the raw values if you're using PokeGen. It sets them right for you based on what you select in the program. (Well, it's possible that there are still some bugs, but I know of none at the moment.) As I said in my previous post, 0x46 is a 2-byte value. Two bytes make up the number stored at this address. It's not 0xBA, it's 0x0BBA, or 3002, which I also said.

Pseudonym
May 25th, 2010, 12:00 PM
SmelltheBurningEmber : Bingo, :)...

Codr : Thanks again, i am new to this HEX jazz, and i appreciate the assistance and clarifications :)...

stev0623
May 25th, 2010, 01:57 PM
Hey guys, I'm pretty confused by all of this.

I'm trying to make a legit pokemon, but I just don't understand what it said. If I want it to look like I traded a pokemon from D/P to SS can I just leave all of my values at 00?

Pseudonym
May 28th, 2010, 02:03 AM
Hey guys, I'm pretty confused by all of this.

I'm trying to make a legit pokemon, but I just don't understand what it said. If I want it to look like I traded a pokemon from D/P to SS can I just leave all of my values at 00?

Try the aforementioned PokeGen ( http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?6424-Pokemon-Generator-%28Pokesav-replacement-for-Pokemon-editing%29 ) , there are selectable menu items where you can select the game...

Try fiddling about with the locations, save the pokemon as a party pokemon, and import the pkm file into pokesav...

Unless i'm mistaken, if a pokemon from a game is traded to another game, and the location where the pokemon was caught does not initially exist in the game the pokemon is being traded to, the location "in-game" may just read "faraway place", however, you might consider checking some of the hex generated by pokegen, perhaps it might be of some potential assistance :)...

Luck to you...

Rob the vast
Jun 1st, 2010, 09:55 AM
Alright, i think i have got this down. I edited the guide a bit from the front page (If a mod wants to edit the FP with this info)
Let me know if i missed anything.

44h & 45h - Who you received an egg from (Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver)
• Always 00-00 if not an egg.
• Cynthia = DB-07 (PL-Togepi)
o Egg Hatched Location 2011 (44h & 45h change from Hall of fame to Cynthia)
• Mr. Pokémon = DD-07 (HG/SS-Togepi)
o Egg Hatched Location 3002
• Riley = 45-00 (PL-Riolu)
o Egg hatched Location 2010
• Primo = DE-07 (HG/SS-Slugma, Mareep, Wooper)
o Egg Hatched Location 3002
• Pokémon Ranger = B9-0B (PL/HG/SS-Manaphy Egg)
o Egg Hatched location 3001
• Day Care Couple = D0-07 (PL/HG/SS-All other Eggs)
o Egg hatched location 2000

46h & 47h - Location of the Hatched/Caught Pokémon (Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver)
• Met in Place = location converted into hex, add zeros until there are four digits, split in half, and flip the values. The Met in Place (In Dec.) and 46h/47h (In Hex.) should always match.
o EX: Met in Place Spear Pillar (51). Convert to Hex (33). Add Zeros (0033). Split (00-33). Flip (33-00)
o PL/HG/SS exclusive places are always Met in Place 3002. 46h & 47h give correct the location.

• Platinum Locations (46h & 47h)
o 70-00- Battle Frontier (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 71-00 - Battle Factory (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 72-00 - Battle Castle (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 73-00 - Battle Roulette (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 74-00 - Battle Stage (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 75-00 - Distortion World
o 76-00 - Global Terminal (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 77-00- R.A House
o 78-00 - Match Place
o 79-00 - Rotom's Room (Also used in HeartGold/SoulSilver)
o 7A-00 - Eterna Galactic HQ
o 7B-00 - Iron Ruins
o 7C-00 - Iceberg Ruins
o 7D-00 - Rock Peak Ruins
o DB-07 - Cynthia (46h & 47h will change this from Hall of Fame to Cynthia)

• HG/SS Locations (46h & 47h)
o 7E-00 - New Bark Town
o 7F-00 - Cherrygrove City
o 80-00 - Violet City
o 81-00 - Azelia Town
o 82-00 - Cianwood City
o 83-00 - Goldenrod City
o 84-00 - Olivine City
o 85-00 - Ecruteak City
o 86-00 - Mahogany Town
o 87-00 - Lake of Rage
o 88-00 - Blackthorn City
o 89-00 - Silver Cave
o 8A-00 - Pallet Town
o 8B-00 - Viridian City
o 8C-00 - Pewter City
o 8D-00 - Cerulean City
o 8E-00 - Lavender Town
o 8F-00 - Vermillion City
o 91-00 - Fuchsia City
o 92-00 - Cinnabar Island
o 93-00 - Indigo Plateau
o 94-00 - Route 1
o 95-00 - Route 2
o 96-00 - Route 3
o 97-00 - Route 4
o 98-00 - Route 5
o 9A-00 - Route 6
o 9B-00 - Route 7
o 9C-00 - Route 8
o 9D-00 - Route 9
o 9E-00 - Route 10
o 9F-00 - Route 11
o A0-00 - Route 12
o A1-00 - Route 13
o A2-00 - Route 14
o A3-00 - Route 15
o A4-00 - Route 16
o A5-00 - Route 17
o A6-00 - Route 18
o A7-00 - Route 19
o A8-00 - Route 20
o A9-00 - Route 21
o AA-00 - Route 22
o AB-00 - Route 23
o AC-00 - Route 24
o AE-00 - Route 26
o AF-00 - Route 27
o B0-00 - Route 28
o B1-00 - Route 29
o B2-00 - Route 30
o B3-00 - Route 31
o B4-00 - Route 32
o B5-00 - Route 33
o B6-00 - Route 34
o B7-00 - Route 35
o B8-00 - Route 36
o B9-00 - Route 37
o BA-00 - Route 38
o BB-00 - Route 39
o BC-00 - Route 40
o BD-00 - Route 41
o BE-00 - Route 42
o BF-00 - Route 43
o C0-00 - Route 44
o C1-00 - Route 45
o C2-00 - Route 46
o C3-00 - Route 47
o C4-00 - Route 48
o C5-00 - Diglett Cave
o C6-00 - Mt. Moon
o C7-00 - Cerulean Cave
o C8-00 - Rock Tunnel
o C9-00 - Power Plant
o CA-00 - Safari Zone
o CB-00 - Seafoam Islands
o CC-00 - Sprout Tower
o CD-00 - Tin Tower
o CE-00 - Burnt Tower
o CF-00 - National Park
o D1-00 - Ruins of Alph
o D2-00 - Union Cave
o D3-00 - Slowpoke Well
o D4-00 - Lighthouse
o D5-00 - Rocket Hideout (Mahogany Town)
o D6-00 - Ilex Forest
o D7-00 - Goldenrod Underground
o D8-00 - Mt. Mortar
o D9-00 - Ice Path
o DA-00 - Whirl Islands (Lugia's Chamber)
o DB-00 - Silver Mountain Cave
o DC-00 - Dark Cave
o DE-00 - Dragon's Den
o DF-00 - Tohjo Falls
o E0-00 - Viridian Forest
o E1-00 - Pokéthlon Dome
o E2-00 - S.S. Aqua
o E3-00 - Safari Zone Gate
o E4-00 - Cliff Cave
o E5-00 - Frontier Front
o E6-00 - Path to Tin Tower
o E7-00 - Shinto Ruins
o E8-00 - Hidden Tower
o E9-00 - Pokéwalker
o EA-00 - Cliff’s Gate

85h How a Pokémon was received (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver)
• Roaming Pokemon - Cresselia/Mespirit/Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres In D/P/PL
Raikou/Entei/Lati@s in HG/SS - will vary depending on where they are caught.
Most of the time it will be 02 (Tall grass) but can also be 07 (Water)
• 00 - Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey Tree
o Shaymin (D/P/PL) Zapdos/Suicune (HG/SS)
• 02 - Tall Grass
o Darkrai/Rotom (D/P/Pt)
• 04 - Dialga/Palkia (D/P/Pt)
• 05 - Cave/Hall of Origin
o Giratina-A/Uxie/Azelf/Heatran/Regigigas/Regirock/Registeel/Regice (D/P/Pt)
o Mewtwo/Articuno/Moltres/Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza (HG/SS)
• 07 - Caught in the Water (D/P/Pt)
o Lugia (HG/SS)
• 09 - Caught in Buildings (D/P/Pt)
o Ho-oh (HG/SS)
• 17 - Distortion World (Giratina-O) (Pt)
• 18 - Starter Pokémon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossils/Porygon (PL)
o Giratina/Palkia/Giratina/Bill's Eevee/Game corner Pokemon/ExtremeSpeed Dratini/Spikey Eared Pichu (HG/SS)
• 0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/PL/HG/SS)
• 0C - Starter Pokémon/Fossils(D/P) Starter Pokémon (HG/SS)

86h Pokeball used to capture Pokémon (HeartGold/SoulSilver)
• Eggs,Starter Pokemon, and Shedinja are always 04-Pokeball.
01 = Master Ball
02 = Ultra Ball
03 = Great Ball
04 = Poke Ball
05 = Safari Ball
06 = Net Ball
07 = Dive Ball
08 = Nest Ball
09 = Repeat Ball
0A = Timer Ball
0B = Luxury Ball
0C = Premier Ball
0D = Dusk Ball
0E = Heal Ball
0F = Quick Ball
10 = Cherish Ball
11 = Fast Ball*
12 = Level Ball*
13 = Lure Ball*
14 = Heavy Ball*
15 = Lovely Ball*
16 = Friend Ball*
17 = Moon Ball*
18 = Compé Ball*
*-Set to Pokeball. 86h will change to the correct HG/SS ball)

zrawrxd
Jun 4th, 2010, 07:06 PM
For 85h, if Pokemon(HeartGold) was caught in safari zone(grass) will it be 0A or 02?

Rob the vast
Jun 5th, 2010, 05:14 PM
• 0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/PL/HG/SS)

For 85h, if Pokemon(HeartGold) was caught in safari zone(grass) will it be 0A or 02?

simpl
Jun 5th, 2010, 06:36 PM
I have a question - I fully understand hex values (how they work etc) but I have recently come to have some japanese pokemon - which for some reason to not follow this hex values guide (yet they do have hex values)

they are all from PT - its just that the values don't check out (and i've run them through legality checker)

So basically what im asking is are japanese hex values different in anyway or has someone hacked these pokemon and done a very good job but messed up hex values?

eg Ryhperior (met at level 0) , egg recieved from day care (2000), met at place (19)

based on this guide for a PT it should have

44h D0
45h 07
46h 13
47h 00
85h 00

I believe

Yet it has the values:
44h 00
45h 00
46h 36
47h 00
85h 05

Thus i am extremely confused - help would be appreciated

Enervator
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Would Tyrogue also have the 85h value 18, as it is given like Bill's Eevee?

Rayku
Jun 8th, 2010, 05:59 PM
I've scoured this entire thread and not been able to find what I need, so I'm going to go ahead and ask/explain:

I'm trying to hack a Groudon that came from Soul Silver, but I do not see Embedded Tower under the listings of the 46h/47h hex. What would those two values be for Embedded Tower?

Dk Gymnast
Jun 8th, 2010, 10:46 PM
The 46th would be E8 and 47 would be 00. Also does anyone know the hex 46,47,and 85th values for the Edge Of Night Sky Jirachi from platinum?

Riolu Aura Sphere Now
Jun 8th, 2010, 11:58 PM
Hi, what would the 44h ,45h, 46h, 47h, 85h and 86h Values be for the Snorlax and Sudowoodo you catch by talking to them?

Jalapeno
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:33 PM
If made the hex values correct etc. is there any chance of the pokemon passing the hack checks from the VGC?

Codr
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:11 PM
If made the hex values correct etc. is there any chance of the pokemon passing the hack checks from the VGC?
You can create Pokemon that're completely indistinguishable from genuine things. People will throw the whole "legitimate" concept down your throat, but just ignore them.

Jalapeno
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:58 AM
You can create Pokemon that're completely indistinguishable from genuine things. People will throw the whole "legitimate" concept down your throat, but just ignore them.

no the reason why i ask is because people say the VGC hack checkers check the game for tamperment, check the hex values etc.. and i just wondered if the pokemon would still get through.
also i cant seem to find a pokesav which has HG / SS locations on it..

Codr
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:35 PM
no the reason why i ask is because people say the VGC hack checkers check the game for tamperment, check the hex values etc.. and i just wondered if the pokemon would still get through.
What I said is saying "yes" to that indirect question. You just have to do it right. I don't know if Pokesav alters save files in a way that's undectable, but I'm positive that PokeGen doesn't leave any signs.

also i cant seem to find a pokesav which has HG / SS locations on it..
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Sinnoh4Ever
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:03 PM
so... if i wanted to say (for soul silver)

I bred an egg and it hatched at violet city, and it hatched in soulsilver, the values would be:
44h : ??
45h : ??
46h : 80
47h : 00
85h : 00
86h : 04

are my values correct? could somone give me the 44h and 45h values that will say that i bred the egg (ie would it say recieved at daycare and what are the soulsilver values for this)??