Event: Shiny Milotic Event in the USA

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Event: Shiny Milotic Event in the USA
Posted on Apr 8th, 2009 04:30 PM

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[fenzo666]

Anyone planning on becoming a tournament registrant to grab this bad boy?

[Darkace]

I wonder why they just didnt make a different pokemon this time
and sadly i cant go

[drobb]

cool, hopefully this will be able to be added to the database. is anyone actually planning on attending and entering?

[coolbho3000]

If I can get in, I will probably go. But it's pretty much impossible to get in anyway.

[Darkace]

If I can get in, I will probably go. But it's pretty much impossible to get in anyway.

not really if you train your pokemon instead of hacking pokemon

[coolbho3000]

not really if you train your pokemon instead of hacking pokemon

Why does hacking Pokemon have anything to do with getting in the tournament? Last year, they had a lottery from which thousands of applicants were randomly drawn.

EDIT: Guess it's different this year? Oh well, then I'm probably not going.

[Darkace]

Why does hacking Pokemon have anything to do with getting in the tournament? Last year, they had a lottery from which thousands of applicants were randomly drawn.

I dont know

[drobb]

i dont hacking really has anything to do with being able to get into the tournament. they have to limit the amount of participants i would imagine and there has to be some way that they do that, either random drawings/lottery or something.

[NTR-AAQE-USA]

Yes they will draw the participants randomly.

[Vlad]

You can always beat up the kid and steal his cartridge -after the event, after he gets the wondercard. Then simply go home and upload the data! I am sure someone would even pay you for this, lol.. ;P

[Turtlekid2]

^Yay, violence!

Seriously, though, while this would be a great Pokemon to have, I don't plan on registering in a tournament just to get one.

[Sabresite]

Its a tournament event pokemon for the winner, or the participants? Also where is it held?

[NTR-AAQE-USA]

Its a tournament event pokemon for the winner, or the participants? Also where is it held?

1. For participants.
2. Look here http://www.pokemonvgc.com/en/rules/wrl.html
Its under "5. Schedule of Events [TBD]:"

[Darkace]

i though some1 would notice that on the site

[damio]

Hopefully we get someone in :)

[Girantina81]

I'm In!

---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------

Wait, where are we doing this???

[randomspot555]

People who went to the tournament last year, when that Lucario was distributed, ANYONE could get it even if you weren't competing.

And by the looks of it on the site, the Milotic will be distributed at all of the regional dates.

So if anyone lives in Pennsylvania, Washington state, Tennesee, Texas, or California, they all have tournament dates in May in their states.

[Akaria]

By the looks of things, there is only one tournament for the UK, which isn't very practical for someone who lives up North, where the Haggis' run free and the caber's are evidently tossed (gee, guess where I'm from).

[Lady Aquarii]

OMFG! It's in Nashville this year! HJLKJJDSLKGLSHDFH!

I'm totally in! I'm going to have to beat down on my pokemon platinum! Guuuuuuh~ I'm going to have to balance college and platinum @___@

But you have my word and blood! I'm going to work my ass off to get in ^0^V So I'm one for you list!

(hiaay guis~! remember me?)

klsfjlsdjfdlkjfslkjlk IT'S IN NAAAAASHVILLE~!

Aaaaah, Opry Mills is going to be packed with retarded tourists, more than usual (Us locals would rather have Opry Land back, ktnx. OM is a retarded ass mall with nothing good in it anyway >>;;;)

Oh and PS, Pokemon main site, I am offended by, but willing to let slide, "heart of country music" slogan. We are not the heart, but the place where people from other states found a place where the natives are willing to tolerate your retardedness! *is a native-born nashvillian, and knows the real truth behind the "heart of country music" halabaloo.* No real Nasvillians like county music! We only tolirate you because we're nice! Most of you are from New York! AUUUUGH. *hates country music with a flaming passion*

/soapbox

Errr... sorry ^^;; But I'll be making my way to regestration, and I'll try my best to get the Milotic for you guys XD;; It just depends on if I can get myself far ahead enough with school to be able grade-wise to attend ^^;; But I'll try my darndest! :D

[fenzo666]

Awesome! Remember not to use the wonder card until you have dumped your SAV for us! I added you to the "Upcoming Events" list on this thread (http://www.projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1596&posted=1#post1596). When you get it, feel free to attach the SAV or WC to one of your posts there. Remember folks. We can always use more than one person to help us out! If anyone else can make it, let us know!

[Lady Aquarii]

Sweet, Thanks for telling me! I would of forgotten elsewise ^_~*

Hey, be hopeful, we've got a long way till the events take place, and the news just came out :3

[Poryhack]

Just a heads up to any prospects who may be able to get this: The only way they have of limiting the distribution to registrants is to use a slot-2 distribution. This means they will plug a special cart into the GBA slot of your DS which will do what the wireless distribution normally would.

Now, the issue with that is that whoever is in charge of loading the distro cart into your DS will obviously know if you're using a flashcart. So if you can, take your retail cart to the event and back up the save later. It you can't... I don't know what Nintendo would do but it probably wouln't be give you the event.

[nikiecho]

wow...
i wish i can enter it T.T

[randomspot555]

Just a heads up to any prospects who may be able to get this: The only way they have of limiting the distribution to registrants is to use a slot-2 distribution. This means they will plug a special cart into the GBA slot of your DS which will do what the wireless distribution normally would.

I believe that's what they did for Lucario last year.

[coolbho3000]

Just a heads up to any prospects who may be able to get this: The only way they have of limiting the distribution to registrants is to use a slot-2 distribution. This means they will plug a special cart into the GBA slot of your DS which will do what the wireless distribution normally would.

Now, the issue with that is that whoever is in charge of loading the distro cart into your DS will obviously know if you're using a flashcart. So if you can, take your retail cart to the event and back up the save later. It you can't... I don't know what Nintendo would do but it probably wouln't be give you the event.

I have the required equipment for backing up a save from a retail cart and if nobody uploads it I would happily pay shipping both ways to back up the Wonder Card (in exchange, the person who does this will get a free ride to the Contributor rank and our eternal gratitude :D).

[blackdra]

ill be heading to the national in st louis since i am already here so ill try and get this shiny but i have no clue how to upload it need less to say time to start training or downloading the legit program

[NovaPhoenix]

I wish Australia had more tournaments. I think we got one after Diamond and Pearl were released. If we get another one after Platinum is released, then I'm going!

[Yankeefan802]

ill be heading to the national in st louis since i am already here so ill try and get this shiny but i have no clue how to upload it need less to say time to start training or downloading the legit program

You would need a flashcard to be able to do a direct dump. Unless of course, they allow you to make the Pokemon Wondercard with exact stats and whatnot. Although I see that as to be quite strange. ._.

[zzzz88]

not really if you train your pokemon instead of hacking pokemon

Using "hacked" pokemon, provided they have legal stats, and pass the legal checker, will be indistinguishable. I don't see this being a factor.

[_Retro_]

I plan on entering the tourney in TX. So theoretically if I max out all of my IV's at 31 for all of my pokemon and have my EV's set up to no more than 510 total & no more than 256 / stat, my pokemon should be tournament legal? I don't know what the legal checker checks, but then again I don't plan on using hacked pokemon, but I'm sure others will try.

Also, I can send you my SAV/WC from the TX tourney.

[Neo]

Id love to go but its not in the Uk :(

EDIT: It is in the UK but i dont live near london :( Ill see if my friend will be going

[NTR-AAQE-USA]

It'll be in Berlin, too but thats like 500 kilometres from here D=
Maybe I find a way to get it..

[-_-]

so far the only decent idea is beating up a little kid
even so I dont think its gonna be full of little kids cos they cant seem to beat their games nor have a clue what ivs/evs are!!!!LOL

[Turtlekid2]

This tournament will mostly consist of 15-18 year old nerdy boys with horn-rimmed glasses and unreal amounts of acne covering their over-determined looking faces.

[Lugiamaster]

you get a shiny milotic just for entering a tournament?
thats awesome, tb I live in england

[fenzo666]

I plan on entering the tourney in TX. So theoretically if I max out all of my IV's at 31 for all of my pokemon and have my EV's set up to no more than 510 total & no more than 256 / stat, my pokemon should be tournament legal? I don't know what the legal checker checks, but then again I don't plan on using hacked pokemon, but I'm sure others will try.

Also, I can send you my SAV/WC from the TX tourney.

Sweet. Just PM me the SAV or WC when you get it or attach it to one of your posts in the Event Pokemon sub-forum.

[zzzz88]

I plan on entering the tourney in TX. So theoretically if I max out all of my IV's at 31 for all of my pokemon and have my EV's set up to no more than 510 total & no more than 256 / stat, my pokemon should be tournament legal? I don't know what the legal checker checks, but then again I don't plan on using hacked pokemon, but I'm sure others will try.

Also, I can send you my SAV/WC from the TX tourney.

Might take a little more than this, some pokemon can't seem to get 31 in all stats legally, need legit location, legit location hatched etc...for certain moves, also need to watch it on hatched pokemon because they don't work under the same system, I think the new pokesav checks for this though. I'm short on time at the moment and most of the info is spread around the internet, feel free to ask though if you have more questions on this.

[Neo]

Ok just found out i might be going so fenzo ill try my best to get it :)

[Lady Aquarii]

This tournament will mostly consist of 15-18 year old nerdy boys with horn-rimmed glasses and unreal amounts of acne covering their over-determined looking faces.

Lulz. I thought so XDDD I may not WIN, but I bet I'll get pretty far. Let alone I may get a few admirers, as I'm a 21-year-old female ^^;; (Oh god... Registration is going to be AWKWARD)

Hee hee. I've got a TTDS, don't fret :33

[randomspot555]

According to a mod at the Serebii Forums who was a judge last year, most of the people who enter are 18-23.

[ReD_RoToM]

i plan on going to the phily event so if i can get in i will grab the milotic. but i have no flash cart or anyother external device other than AR. from what i can read the entrants will be chosen at random after the registration period. its like a 3 hr drive for me but im cool with it. any advice on what i can do with my cart in terms of transfer of the data would be cool. maybe i'll see some of ya there

[randomspot555]

i plan on going to the phily event so if i can get in i will grab the milotic. but i have no flash cart or anyother external device other than AR. from what i can read the entrants will be chosen at random after the registration period. its like a 3 hr drive for me but im cool with it. any advice on what i can do with my cart in terms of transfer of the data would be cool. maybe i'll see some of ya there

You can't. You'll need a flashcart, or give your Plat cart to someone with a flashcart so they can upload it.

[NovaPhoenix]

You'd think Nintendo's hack checker would be as thorough as Legal.exe?

[randomspot555]

You'd think Nintendo's hack checker would be as thorough as Legal.exe?

Hotskittyonwailord, the mod at SPPF who was the judge at last year's tournament, says it is very thorough. He saw numerous people with Pokemon who "look" legal but weren't. Now, if that's just because they did a bad job hacking and didn't have their PIV-ID or something like that done correctly, or it really is all that powerful, who knows?

You can read her posts about it throughout this thread:

link (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=358447)

He obviously never got to talk to the people who made the Nintendo Rom Check so how it exactly works is only based on observation, but she did notice one unique aspect: if an Action Replay had been used on a cart, it would set off a flag and alert the checker.

[Sabresite]

I do not trust any mod at Serebii to have the required technical knowledge or common sense to determine legality of Pokemon.

Regarding ARDS setting off a bit, there is no evidence of this. When I get time, I will use NO$GBA to verify this statement. Unfortunately, I do not have an actual ARDS, otherwise I would use my real cartridge. I hope the results will be the same.

Also, Nintendo intended the PID & IVs to be "sufficiently random", therefore I do not believe for a second that they would check the relationship. Even if they do, a good hacker will make sure EVERYTHING is within legal limits.

[randomspot555]

I do not trust any mod at Serebii to have the required technical knowledge or common sense to determine legality of Pokemon.

Most of the posts are just him talking about how he saw the hack checker being used. He has no overt reason to lie or make anything up, but of course like any non-Nintendo/PUSA/Pokemon Co. official, their word should be taken with a grain of salt.

It's also very possible that all of the hacks that the device checked weren't actually legal in every sense of the word, hence leading to thinking it's a lot more effective than it actually is.

[-_-]

these are the people who made the games they could have machines that you put in the carts and check them for all we know!!!!

also I could easily beat up/steal the DS of a geeky 18yr old!!!! easier than a little kid no guilt!!!!LOL but seriously I could (brown belt judo!!!!!! (it goes brown then black and Im under 16 so there are no Dan grades))

[Torte de Lini]

Add more exclamation marks please.

To be a bruiser and off-topic, being a brown belt means nothing when it comes to violence, especially since Karate shouldn't be used in order to gain something, but to defend when all other methods (reasoning for instance) cannot resolve the impasse.

I know you're joking, but I'm bothered to see you joshing with Karate.

_____________________________

To be more on-topic. I don't think Nintendo is efficient in their checks as everyone makes them out to be.

[bmtdan]

any luck on obtaining this yet?

[randomspot555]

To be more on-topic. I don't think Nintendo is efficient in their checks as everyone makes them out to be.

To not get into an extensive debate on what Nintendo can and can't check for (since honestly, none of us know), I think it's more of an issue of if hacking for it, even legally, is fair. I imagine a good number of people don't have the ability to hack. So their IVs might be a bit lower, or natures might not be perfect, or they chose something with less egg moves since it had a better nature. SCV has a good post that's better written than this, and it has essentially the same point.


My real cartridges always stay 100% legit and when I want to do something that would otherwise be impossible, I use the rom and a flashcart or emulator, but that doesn't get back to my real cart. If I ever go to a Nintendo Tournament, not likely, I will have nothing to worry about.

One thing we must all realize is that we are vastly different from Nintendo on this. Nintendo probably knows EVERYTHING about the pokemon games, in particular where everything is in the sav. If they don't, they can probably get whatever information they want from Game Freak.

Compared to Game Freak/Nintendo, we know very little. While we do have access to the ROM and all the information we want is there. Its hard for us to decipher everything. On the other hand Game Freak has the source code for the games. So for us to know what they check or what they can check would be very hard.

But the main reason why I don't want game enhancing to touch any of my carts that I might end up using in a tournament is that I think that Nintendo Tournaments are made for people who play the game how Nintendo intends the game to be played. I also think that when we buy the game we have a right to do with it as we please, (including extracting the rom, the sav, using ram editing or deciding we'd rather play the rom on our flashcart), as long as it will not intrude on other's experience. Using game enhancers and then going to a tournament is disrespectful to the people who make sacrifices to play the game as Nintendo intends and then go to their tournaments. I doubt that I will go through the breeding or soft re-setting that would be required to make the team that I would use. But if in my research I discover something that will allow me to cut my team building time and is 100% legit, then I will use that. Otherwise I will stay out of Nintendo Tournaments and stick to having fun with game enhancers and researching the game.

It really isn't that hard to breed for decent IVs and nature, even easier if you can exploit the RNG.


any luck on obtaining this yet?

It hasn't happened yet, and I'm guessing it'll be a bit more secure than TRU events are.

[bmtdan]

oh i was thinking there was one in seattle already my bad

[That Pokemon Guy]

I would go to the one in Texas, but I don't feel like driving all the way to Dallas from Houston.

[InuYouki]

I will be going to the one in PA June 6th. If someone can tell me where to get this "flash cart" and how to use it correctly, I will gladly share my WC with PP if I get one.

I will try to enter, but even if I get in I wont get far XD I don't hack and I am not the best at EV training, but I will try. Any suggestions on a team haha.

[Neo]

There are lots of website with Flashcarts like Dealextreme. There pretty easy to use just put the Firmware on the and your Game Backup and play away.

[InuYouki]

You say pretty easy, but what you just said was Greek to me. Put the Firmware on the and? Like I said I don't Hack or play with ROMS or anything so forgive my nOObish ways. ^^; I am sure I wouldn't have a problem using it, but someone will have to explain it in detail to me.

If someone has a link to where I can read how to use them it would be most helpful. If not, then I guess I will just have to enjoy the event and tell you all how awesome it was later haha XD

[FLOOTENKERP]

Get a Cyclo. They are pretty easy to use.

[NulMyre]

They are being very secure as far as this one goes.

Yes, the shiny Milotic is a wonder card event, and you can only get it if you decide to participate. You have to have Platinum only, and you give your game cart and DS (except DSi, then just cart) and they put in an event cart in the GBA slot (Looks like a dark grey Drill Dozer cart). And yes, they check for the legality of your cart as well.

Here are some stats for the Milotic -

Shiny
Timid - Forced across all Milotics
Flame Orb
-Rain Dance
-Recover
-Hydro Pump
-Icy Wind
Caught in Cherish Ball
255 Beauty and 150 Sheen
Met at LV 50 - Pokemon Event - Fateful Encounter
Classic Ribbon
OT - VGC09 / Male
ID - 5099
SID -14128
IVs Randomized
F4 on 46h and 0B on 47h

And here's a nice little thing, legal.exe says it's hacked as its type, everything else is good though.

There was a 2/5 chance of someone being picked because of the turnout for Seniors, and the machines used for official matches were interesting:

You place the cart in a white box(Stack 3 Wiis flat on each other, then get another stack and put the stack's back together, thats the approimate shape/size), and it has a special cord coming of the side to connect to a DS lite's DS slot. These boxes can output the matches to TVs, force the wireless functions to the person also connected to your box, and possibly perform checks. You aren't using your DS.

[NTR-AAQE-USA]

And here's a nice little thing, legal.exe says it's hacked as its type, everything else is good though.

There was a 2/5 chance of someone being picked because of the turnout for Seniors, and the machines used for official matches were interesting:

You place the cart in a white box(Stack 3 Wiis flat on each other, then get another stack and put the stack's back together, thats the approimate shape/size), and it has a special cord coming of the side to connect to a DS lite's DS slot. These boxes can output the matches to TVs, force the wireless functions to the person also connected to your box, and possibly perform checks. You aren't using your DS.
I think these Boxes where Capture/Debug-Devices, very rare and expensive to get :D

Legal.exe has an event database, thats why its hacked.

edit: There are 2 capture-devices in the white box, they are connected using a LAN-cable.
They can't check anything.

[FLOOTENKERP]

That's how you obtain the event? Wow. Well you could bring a legitimate cart than when you get back home, buy a cyclo and use savesender to extract the .nds and .sav file. That way you won't be caught.

[Poryhack]

I take it you were there?

For the details you provided, it looks like you have one. Can you contribute it?

[Narwhal]

If I don't use any hacked pokemon, but have them in my boxes, can they still figure it out?

[randomspot555]

If I don't use any hacked pokemon, but have them in my boxes, can they still figure it out?

Tournament rules say any illegal Pokemon, even if it's not in your registered party, can get you banned. From reading about the tournaments, it seems they only check non-registered Pokes from those who advance to some of the top spots.

[Godzilla231]

I'll probbly go there this friday in PHX. And great timing as well, it's the first day of summer vacation for me.:) Not to mention I'll be getting my AK2 soon, hopefully.:)

[4evil]

ignore the battle and look at the side you can see the white boxes. its also shown at the end of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLO4qyieKZ0

[NulMyre]

I don't have any special tools that come to mind in really helping me except an AR and AceKard, which, if I can get a code that can make the WC redistributable byte/bit be "on" to another Plat at least, I can send it to my AK Plat and contribute it here.

I have an unused WC and got a copy of my friend's Milotic, and yes I was there.

[Poryhack]

Well you should be able to dump the save over a wifi connection using your AceKard. There's a tutorial here (http://www.monroeworld.com/myfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=7&id=85&artlang=en); it's geared more toward dumping a ROM but to dump a save all you have to do different is select the corresponding action on the DS.

Let me know if wifi's not an option for you or if you have any difficulties getting it working, as I'd really like to get the full WC onto the site.

Thanks!

[Gold88]

ignore the battle and look at the side you can see the white boxes. its also shown at the end of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLO4qyieKZ0

What are those boxes :) ?

The battle zone where you fight your rival, while it's showed on the max tv ? And how is that showed through the tv ? Too cool, i'd like to have one in Italy...

[NulMyre]

Well Pory, I'll see if I can do that, keyword being can, as I'm in extremely low control over any internet dealings here as my roommates own the router and cable is in their name, and they work on many ports(I know 8080 is one of them).

But I'll see if I can manage to get that to work while they're sleeping :) Thanks for the tut, you should be seeing the WC here soon, don't let the thread die.

On another note, I'm going to Phoenix for the regionals again, so I'll pick up another WC with another cart, so we can check if anything is any different, just-in-case type thing.

If I can't manage the WC tonight, I'm already in Phoenix, then it'll have to wait until Monday.

[fenzo666]

Well Pory, I'll see if I can do that, keyword being can, as I'm in extremely low control over any internet dealings here as my roommates own the router and cable is in their name, and they work on many ports(I know 8080 is one of them).

But I'll see if I can manage to get that to work while they're sleeping :) Thanks for the tut, you should be seeing the WC here soon, don't let the thread die.

On another note, I'm going to Phoenix for the regionals again, so I'll pick up another WC with another cart, so we can check if anything is any different, just-in-case type thing.

If I can't manage the WC tonight, I'm already in Phoenix, then it'll have to wait until Monday.
Awesome. Thanks for letting us know!

[NulMyre]

I'm back, with a 2nd place trip, feels good, and I have 2 saves/WCs to dump, once I get this figured out and complete, I can finally get some sleep.

[Poryhack]

I'm back, with a 2nd place trip, feels good, and I have 2 saves/WCs to dump, once I get this figured out and complete, I can finally get some sleep.
Much appreciated. I'm available on IRC if needed.

[NulMyre]

309
VGC'09 Milotic

OK, got the one from my main Plat up, but my 2nd one is being stubborn, I'm sure there isn't a real difference, but when I get back over to dump it again, I'll give it a check.

I seriously can't wait for nationals.

[Poryhack]

Thanks a ton; we'll be sure to credit you. Good luck at nationals.

[FLOOTENKERP]

No way! This is awesome. I can't believe someone was able to get the .pcd for us!