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Hozu
Nov 18th, 2012, 08:00 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2728713

The stationary encounter of Amoongus at Route 23 at level 56 is missing from the database.

dcrispell7
Nov 19th, 2012, 12:51 AM
I couldn't remember why I had a random Oshawott on my account so I deleted it only to remember i had linked it here :/ Sorry for the repost. Any way, the LA doesn't recognize 65535 as a valid TID in gen 5 http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2554936 even though it recognizes 65535 as a valid SID http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2402744 and has no issues with 65535 as a TID in gen 3 (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=610175) and gen 4 (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1888603)

dsa
Nov 19th, 2012, 03:21 AM
it is easy: your first pokemon does not have a legit SID 0 only can´t be a number which means 0000 is not legal, you might have to modify it (if it is not from your game) and make it somewhat like 0103 or so!

Dark Ray
Nov 19th, 2012, 03:25 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1392324 Illegal egg move combo for generation of origin, Dragonite line didn't get Aqua Jet until the 5th gen.

EDIT: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1981545 "level-up move inherited from parents" when it was bred on a game where it could not learn the move through any method.

Bond697
Nov 19th, 2012, 03:26 AM
it is easy: your first pokemon does not have a legit SID 0 only can´t be a number which means 0000 is not legal, you might have to modify it (if it is not from your game) and make it somewhat like 0103 or so!

of course that's legal. what the hell are you talking about?

Agonist
Nov 21st, 2012, 09:09 PM
this (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2753996) has an illegal met level for the Pal Park. Additionally, it's a Gen 4 file, so it shouldn't say anything about the Pokémon evolving after being transferred to Gen 5.

Waitress_Tsubame
Nov 23rd, 2012, 01:59 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2759342

DW Sawk is already out during the last few days. Bit it still has the "Invalid or unreleased Dream World ability." message.

Waitress_Tsubame
Nov 27th, 2012, 09:46 AM
Hmm another one...
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2798811

Dream Park does have Shroomish with Bullet Seed as DW move, but mine says Hacked/Event Only =(

And to confirm it, I've also checked the others' public Entralink Shroomish with Bullet Seed, and they said the same thing.

Moon Dreamer
Nov 27th, 2012, 11:17 AM
wrumple's d/w ability has been released for quite a while and i still see the Invalid or unreleased Dream World ability bit in the pokechecks legality analysis

mirkosp
Nov 28th, 2012, 07:11 PM
Hmm another one...
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2798811

Dream Park does have Shroomish with Bullet Seed as DW move, but mine says Hacked/Event Only =(

And to confirm it, I've also checked the others' public Entralink Shroomish with Bullet Seed, and they said the same thing.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2810824

Same deal with Focus Punch, comes from the Dream Park.

Agonist
Nov 28th, 2012, 09:04 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2759342

DW Sawk is already out during the last few days. Bit it still has the "Invalid or unreleased Dream World ability." message.


Hmm another one...
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2798811

Dream Park does have Shroomish with Bullet Seed as DW move, but mine says Hacked/Event Only =(

And to confirm it, I've also checked the others' public Entralink Shroomish with Bullet Seed, and they said the same thing.


wrumple's d/w ability has been released for quite a while and i still see the Invalid or unreleased Dream World ability bit in the pokechecks legality analysis


http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2810824

Same deal with Focus Punch, comes from the Dream Park.

Guys, xfr will update this when he's around. In the meantime, post actual issues with the LA.

sunshoes
Nov 29th, 2012, 05:43 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2815377
Shows Reversal being a hacked move on Dugtrio. Diglett can learn Reversal by breeding in Gen IV and V.

Dark Ray
Nov 29th, 2012, 03:11 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2815377
Shows Reversal being a hacked move on Dugtrio. Diglett can learn Reversal by breeding in Gen IV and V.Translation: "boo hoo my shitty hacks show up hacked"

Level 1 Pikachu has never been legal http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2306446 and neither is level 1 Clefairy http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1480378
EDIT: It seems to do that for all Pokemon that evolve via level up plus another condition (specififc hold item, happiness, specific move).

sunshoes
Nov 30th, 2012, 06:44 AM
Translation: "boo hoo my shitty hacks show up hacked"

Except Reversal is a legal move on Dugtrio.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Reversal#By_breeding

randomspot555
Nov 30th, 2012, 08:04 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2815377
Shows Reversal being a hacked move on Dugtrio. Diglett can learn Reversal by breeding in Gen IV and V.

Your Pokemon's legality analyses isn't showing up, but I think you're lying.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2784787 has Reversal and looks just fine.

Kaphotics
Nov 30th, 2012, 08:13 AM
It's because


>Region Unova (Black 2)
>Hatched/Met Poké Transfer Lab

Unknown encounter in the LA, did you perchance hatch it inside the lab for no good reason? There's no way to get an origin hex of B2W2 on a transferred mon.

I checked the OT/ID/SID of your Dugtrio, and it matched a HG trainer of the same gender ~ it wasn't associated to any account [so it's private as well].

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&tid=50462%2F210&notpub=1

This doesn't seem like it's Pokécheck's fault.

sunshoes
Nov 30th, 2012, 08:58 AM
Ah, that explains it. It was traded so I'm not sure how the OT got it.

Thanks Kaphotics.

Hozu
Dec 4th, 2012, 02:23 PM
Milotic in 4th gen format must have a enough of a Beauty contest stat to be legal. Unfortunately I do not have an example on hand, nor do I know the minimum Beauty stat to evolve.

Agonist
Dec 4th, 2012, 06:33 PM
I don't know if this (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=387302) would work, but I'm fairly sure it's beauty needs to be 220 or higher, the same as friendship based evolutions.

Dark Ray
Dec 4th, 2012, 10:48 PM
I don't know if this (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=387302) would work, but I'm fairly sure it's beauty needs to be 220 or higher, the same as friendship based evolutions.Milotic needs 170 Beauty in the 3rd/4th gen.


EDIT: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2853977 This is NOT a Safari Zone Pokemon.

Hozu
Dec 6th, 2012, 02:11 PM
Oh yes obviously the Beauty restriction on Milotic would not apply to those 4th gen events.

Vicjor
Dec 7th, 2012, 08:55 AM
False Positive
No initial special ability, can have other language than Japan or Korea
Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, (Japan, Korea)
Turtwig, Chimchar, Piplup, (Japan, Korea) start handing them out today in USA
Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip, (Japan)

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2179532
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=494445
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2793989


Falso positivo
Ningún inicial con habilidad especial, puede tener otro idioma que Japón o Corea
Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, (Japón, Corea)
Turtwig, Chimchar, Piplup, (Japón, Corea) empiezan hoy a repartirlos en USA
Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip, (Japón)

ares9090
Dec 10th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Tohoku Victini showing False Positive:

ID/SID Secret ID missing, probably hacked.
Locations Unknown fateful encounter. Unknown encounter.
Ball Cherish Ball on non-wifi event.

EDIT: I forgot to post the link

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2913624

Agonist
Dec 10th, 2012, 06:23 PM
xfr hasn't been on lately afaik, and as he's the only one capable of updating the LA, it hasn't been updated yet. It's not really a false positive so much as the LA just hasn't been updated.

Nigoli
Dec 10th, 2012, 06:48 PM
Tohoku Victini showing False Positive:Until that checker has been updated. As long as you've acquired that Victini from here. It should be legal just fine, along with all of our Japanese Events.

Keep in mind that RS 10th Anniversary, the upcoming Masuda Deoxys, and any future Events that aren't WFC will be like this too until it's updated.

DemonStrike
Dec 11th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Ok so I am here again with something I feel is important.
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920263 : My EMU RNG'd Beldum from my Ruby save (no RAM Hacks)
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920234 : My EMU RNG'd Groudon from my Ruby save (no RAM Hacks)
Both of these Pokemon show Invalid Pal Park Trash Bytes. However, these four don't:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920244
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920241
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920237
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920230
All were RNG'd on VBA-RR without Ram Hacks and Pal Parked using DeSmuMe.
As I recall, I was told that Pokecheck does not support EMU Pal Park Trash Bytes, but then, why do these four have Valid Pal Park Trash Bytes.
Something to note, I Pal Parked them in the same batch.
Now, I'll try nicknaming the Pokemon(s) (Groudon and Beldum) and Pal Park them again.

EDIT: Here are the two Pokemon in question:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920624
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2920615
It can be seen that Pal Parking them again in a different order witha different pokemon gave me different Trash Bytes.
Beldum got fixed, but Groudon still gets Invalid Trash Bytes after Pal Parking.
Next, I'll send them again but in a different order.

Kaphotics
Dec 11th, 2012, 01:59 PM
>Pal Parked using DeSmuMe.

There's your problem. We don't support it because they are so wildly variant... we just support Retail resultant trash bytes (and a few emulator ones); just run them through trashbytes.exe if you want to fix them.

DemonStrike
Dec 11th, 2012, 02:00 PM
Ok, thanks.

Dark Ray
Dec 12th, 2012, 12:27 AM
LA does not seem to like eggs traded from D/P to HG/SS. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949298

Kaphotics
Dec 12th, 2012, 07:43 AM
LA does not seem to like eggs traded from D/P to HG/SS. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949298

k

(note: nationality is kept when hatching a traded egg; presumably the origin game doesn't either). Gen IV ~= Gen V :P

Hozu
Dec 12th, 2012, 02:45 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1691764

TMs held by 4th gen format mons should reflect the 4th gen TM, not 5th gen ones.

heavy_metal
Dec 13th, 2012, 01:42 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=92647

false positive, wrong name of pokeball (says dream ball but, the ball its park ball)
*i know its a hax pokemon i was download some moltres with morning sun

falso positivo, incorrecto nombre de pokeball (dice que es sueńo ball pero la pokebola es parque ball)
*ya se que es un hax pokemon solo buscaba descargar algun moltres con sol matinal

Agonist
Dec 13th, 2012, 07:14 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=92647

false positive, wrong name of pokeball (says dream ball but, the ball its park ball)
*i know its a hax pokemon i was download some moltres with morning sun

falso positivo, incorrecto nombre de pokeball (dice que es sueńo ball pero la pokebola es parque ball)
*ya se que es un hax pokemon solo buscaba descargar algun moltres con sol matinal

No, just no. There is nothing wrong with the Legality Analysis in this case.

Britty
Dec 14th, 2012, 03:09 PM
LA does not seem to like eggs traded from D/P to HG/SS. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949298

That's funny; I was just about to report that. I never would've noticed this if I didn't have those pokemon accidentally not private. I just clicked them randomly trying to figure out why I had a Marstomp thinking that was my B2, but my SS had the same name. I only uploaded these guys to see who had random 31's, and never thought to check the legality analysis.

More technical information:
When starting my JP SS long before the English release, I sent myself some eggs from my English Pearl. When going through my other pokemon from my English Pearl, I noticed it does the same thing with pokemon traded from my JP Diamiond to the English Pearl before they hatched.

Going to list all the trainer information just in case it helps, but I am beginning to believe the origin trainer of the egg sets the location of the OTs game, even if it is different.

Pokemon from English Pearl with her OT:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1604921 (Not sure why this one is missing some trashbytes, it was hatched on my retail copy)
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1604919
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1604932 (Also missing hatch trashbytes?)
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1604917 (Same as above.)
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1537738

Eggs that originated on my JP Diamond that hatched on English Pearl: Not a false positive, but displays wrong game for the OT, matching the origin game.
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1713666


Pokemon from JP Diamond:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1708824
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1713672

Pokemon from JP SS:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949348
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949332
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949322

Pokemon that originated in my ENG Pearl, but hatched on JP SS: False Positives
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949223
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949224
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949298
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949294

Other False positives:
My surfing Raichu who was caught as a pikachu on the pokewalker on JP SS: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949225
Flail Pikachu from same pokewalker course: https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1949273

xfr
Dec 20th, 2012, 02:42 PM
Updated some stuff

marcos9191
Dec 21st, 2012, 06:09 AM
Lack update the world12 pikachu spanish version, missing the title of the wonder card but the pokemon could be added because the type of pid is the same for all pikachu's that event:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2397789

Aleph
Dec 21st, 2012, 07:21 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2903816

False positive(Negative maybe?). A RNG'd egg from W1 and then traded to W2 says is from a Wonder Card (WC #29: A Secret Egg!)

Edit:

5 new borns. Breed on W1 and then hatched on W2, all saying are from the WC #29: A Secret Egg!

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021889
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021890
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021892
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021894
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021895

RainThunder
Dec 21st, 2012, 07:44 AM
Newly contributed Korean WCS Shiny Volcarona has not been updated yet.

My two eggs from Kanto Starter Egg event, Charmander (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2010271) and Bulbasaur (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2010273) is showed up as "Met location does not match wondercard". This Bulbasaur is hatched at Virbank City, while Charmander is hatched at Floccesy Town.
My other egg, Squirtle (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2010272), does not have any problem.

E: Korean WCS Shiny Volcarona was updated.

marcos9191
Dec 22nd, 2012, 08:17 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2903816

False positive(Negative maybe?). A RNG'd egg from W1 and then traded to W2 says is from a Wonder Card (WC #29: A Secret Egg!)


This pokemon is valid because when you trade an egg the game changes the OT, tid, sid and game (country not change)


http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2903816
5 new borns. Breed on W1 and then hatched on W2, all saying are from the WC #29: A Secret Egg!

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021889
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021890
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021892
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021894
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3021895

This pokemon is hacks because the nature, gender or iv's speed is not same of the wonder card. You see this axew and compare with the others:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3031363
note: this axew obtained in english edition and before hatch I traded into a black 2 spanish edition

In this link you can see it's the same (in this case is a squirtle egg event traded into white spanish version):
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3020837

Agonist
Dec 22nd, 2012, 01:24 PM
This (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2047266) is an illegal egg move combination. Shellos can't get both Yawn and Mirror Coat to pass onto it.

reposting.

Hozu
Dec 23rd, 2012, 12:53 PM
This pokemon is valid because when you trade an egg the game changes the OT, tid, sid and game (country not change)



This pokemon is hacks because the nature, gender or iv's speed is not same of the wonder card. You see this axew and compare with the others:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3031363
note: this axew obtained in english edition and before hatch I traded into a black 2 spanish edition

In this link you can see it's the same (in this case is a squirtle egg event traded into white spanish version):
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3020837

You're a rather poor script kiddie if you can't even figure legality out. The issue is that a NON-EVENT Axew egg is being incorrectly flagged as the event.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3042177

Mew is not a valid Entralink Pokémon.

Kasoman
Dec 24th, 2012, 05:30 AM
There needs to be work for Black and White 2. LOL. :tongue:

Kaphotics
Dec 24th, 2012, 05:50 AM
There needs to be work for Black and White 2. LOL. :tongue:

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3047748

Version: Black 2
Un-terminated OT name field.
Encounter Type: Tall Grass.

Nothing to see here. Already muted you on the shoutbox for complaining about why your hack showed up as hacked.

heavy_metal
Dec 25th, 2012, 04:00 PM
false positive stoutland with dw (scrappy) its avaliable so pokecheck mark hack pokemon

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=328723

Agonist
Dec 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
It's showing up hacked like it should. Nothing to complain about.

Kaphotics
Dec 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Yep. Just a hack.

For the record, it's been implemented already (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2789469).

(private pkm but just saying it's been working for a while)

Please, don't trust @caldemc (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&tid=%40caldemc&notpub=1) for any uploads because they're (almost) always hacked.

dcrispell7
Dec 26th, 2012, 09:39 PM
False Positive:

Gen 5 format Safari Zone pokemon show up as being in a hacked ball http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2847514 despite the location recognizing it as a Safari zone pokemon.

For comparison, here is the same Ditto in gen 4 format http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2847510 (not sure if this helps any, but just in case)

On a related note, only Great Marsh pokemon seem to have a Safari Zone/Great Marsh encounter type (as seen here http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2356967) whereas HG/SS Safari Zone pokemon are labeled as a Tall Grass encounter type, like the Ditto.

Hozu
Dec 27th, 2012, 01:20 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3070134

The LA seems to forget that Nidorina's previous evolution is in the Field egg group. The original one shows up fine: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=945667

Icalasari
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:18 AM
Got a false positive on my Kingdra

I'm not surprised that the IVs came up as likely hacked (I am so proud of these guy being able to fool a legality checker into thinking he's fake). However, I AM surprised about this:

Nickname Neptune\xFFFF\x0000\x0000\xFFFF
All characters in name are valid.
This Pokémon is missing DPPt hatch trash bytes.

The heck is going on here?

EDIT: Link to the legality check screenshot (https://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=3079386&la)

Kaphotics
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:22 AM
Pokemon in question:
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3079386, user @thelasil (http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&tid=%40thelasil&notpub=1)

Orange color text is a warning for the user to evaluate, because it is not indicative of a hack.

Eggs hatched in Gen 4 have trash bytes. Yours is missing them.

Icalasari
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:44 AM
What would cause a Pokemon to suddenly be missing its trash bytes, exactly? I know that I've been having some issues with transferring my Pokemon from Gen IV to Gen V (my Dialga spontaneously learned Spacial Rend during the transfer), so knowing if its a problem with my gen IV games or my gen V games would be nice =/

Kaphotics
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:59 AM
Using the renamer guy iirc.

Icalasari
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:01 AM
Ok then, I know what happened in that case (His name was originally Tsunami)

Thanks for the help there. I thought that the site legitimately thought he was hacked for some reason

marcos9191
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:52 AM
I think (only as a suggestion) you could add "provably because nick was changed after hatching" into the warning "This Pokémon is missing DPPt hatch trash bytes" and "This Pokémon is missing HG/SS hatch trash bytes", is the only legal chance to have them so if don't have DPPl or HG/SS trash bytes.

Agonist
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:10 PM
I think (only as a suggestion) you could add "provably because nick was changed after hatching" into the warning "This Pokémon is missing DPPt hatch trash bytes" and "This Pokémon is missing HG/SS hatch trash bytes", is the only legal chance to have them so if don't have DPPl or HG/SS trash bytes.

Why bother?

dcrispell7
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:44 PM
False Positive:

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3081795 Magnet Rise shows up as hacked/Event only when it is a valid HG/SS move tutor

marcos9191
Dec 28th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Why bother?
To avoid create confusion, but just it's a suggestion :)

Hozu
Dec 28th, 2012, 09:40 PM
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4376835&postcount=959

Unless the Poketransfer function does something funny with Pokerus shouldn't any strain be possible without restrictions? As in 0-4 days duration, strains 1-15? Because if I can get strain 8.X in Emerald for example, I could pass that onwards to 5th gen and infect Unova origin mons with it. Right now 8.X is flagged as illegal.

Edit: That post may be wrong. Bond is looking into 3rd gen again. However my point still stands, unless some strains are impossible in all games of course.

luftbandiger
Dec 29th, 2012, 10:12 AM
I am getting Rock Head as a hacked ability for a blue-stripped Basculin.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3011403

Agonist
Dec 29th, 2012, 08:16 PM
To avoid create confusion, but just it's a suggestion :)

If there's any confusion, it's because people don't bother to actually read, and comprehend what's being said.

justpaul95
Jan 2nd, 2013, 01:59 AM
Celebi should only be in a Cherish or Pokeball but Pokecheck says a Master Ball is valid

https://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=3117889&la

Agonist
Jan 2nd, 2013, 01:42 PM
In a similar vein, the only way to get Mew in a Pokeball other than the default (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3024476), and Cherish ball is through Emerald, and only on Japanese versions.

Hozu
Jan 2nd, 2013, 10:23 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2830639

Korean B/W2 is a valid game version now.

dantherip
Jan 3rd, 2013, 12:05 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3132468

What does "Shiny-check triggered Manaphy egg" mean?

Hozu
Jan 3rd, 2013, 12:40 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3132468

What does "Shiny-check triggered Manaphy egg" mean?

It means that it would have been shiny on the original save file it was obtained on, hence the anti-shiny measures kicked in. That changes the PID, and since it is predictable, that is the message you get.

What's up with this one? http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3132447
There is no message on the PID line at all.

Trashsetter
Jan 3rd, 2013, 04:03 PM
Found something strange on the legality analysis of my luxtra

A friend of mine chained this one in his Diamond Edition, but the legality analysis says it's hacked! https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3092905

How comes that?

Propoke
Jan 5th, 2013, 05:37 AM
The checks for a few White 2/Black 2 PID's seem a bit dodgy.

By that I mean, there are a few that are being marked as invalid when they were obtained in the game.

A Samurott: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148521

A Lucario: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148521

Samurott was a starter, and Lucario evolved from a Riolu obtained from the dream world.

Kaphotics
Jan 5th, 2013, 08:22 AM
Lucario (bad url) - http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148542

user's account: all private ~ http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&tid=%40propoke&notpub=1

Propoke
Jan 5th, 2013, 06:04 PM
If you want them public:

Lucario: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148542

Samurott: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148521

The Lucario link I posted works. Maybe because it was private?
I normally set my pokemon to private as I keep changing the ones on there, updating them as I go about training them.

Dark Ray
Jan 6th, 2013, 02:32 AM
Dream Radar and Game version Black/White do not go together. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2709354

Hozu
Jan 6th, 2013, 03:03 PM
If you want them public:

Lucario: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148542

Samurott: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3148521

The Lucario link I posted works. Maybe because it was private?
I normally set my pokemon to private as I keep changing the ones on there, updating them as I go about training them.
"Oh no my hacks are showing up as hacked. Something is wrong here!"

Legality analysis is working properly.

dantherip
Jan 6th, 2013, 06:05 PM
Hi

I feel kinda violated by Hozu throwing all my failed trades up on the chat after he muted me, at least let me explain why they are there.

Also the Wallmart Chimchar is released with fakeout as a move seeing as it is a male I would guess that it would be able to pass the move down and therefore making it a non-event move?
Here is the Chimchar in question- https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3101226

Also why did he say this Mew is fake: https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3044357, I traded my Meloetta for that, is there something I should know here?

Also I apologize for my outburst, I got unnecessary angry over the "Lern2read comment" as I felt that was rude.

If this is the wrong place to post this then please delete this and direct me towards the correct place. :)

Agonist
Jan 6th, 2013, 08:30 PM
Hi

I feel kinda violated by Hozu throwing all my failed trades up on the chat after he muted me, at least let me explain why they are there.

Also the Wallmart Chimchar is released with fakeout as a move seeing as it is a male I would guess that it would be able to pass the move down and therefore making it a non-event move?
Here is the Chimchar in question- https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3101226

Also why did he say this Mew is fake: https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3044357, I traded my Meloetta for that, is there something I should know here?

Also I apologize for my outburst, I got unnecessary angry over the "Lern2read comment" as I felt that was rude.

If this is the wrong place to post this then please delete this and direct me towards the correct place. :)

Can't say why the Mew is hacked, but it definitely is. Additionally, there are quite a few other terrible hacks associated with your account that you promptly deleted when it was mentioned. Finally, the Hacked / Event only (###) is pretty self-explanatory, so it really shouldn't need to be explained once, let alone four or five times.

Oh, and it's up to the moderators/admins discretion on who to mute; if they muted you, it's because they had a good reason (and Hozu did).

dantherip
Jan 6th, 2013, 08:54 PM
Can't say why the Mew is hacked, but it definitely is. Additionally, there are quite a few other terrible hacks associated with your account that you promptly deleted when it was mentioned. Finally, the Hacked / Event only (###) is pretty self-explanatory, so it really shouldn't need to be explained once, let alone four or five times.

Oh, and it's up to the moderators/admins discretion on who to mute; if they muted you, it's because they had a good reason (and Hozu did).

Thanks for the answer, there where 2 hacks associated with my account, one I received over at pokemongts(the shiny Manaphy) and one I received over at Serebii(the shiny Thunderus). I deleted them because I felt violated and I do a lot of trading and didn't want my trading name tarnished because of 2 dumb hacks on my account, afterall they where only in there because I wanted to check them.

I'm sorry about asking too many times, it didn't really sink in until QouteM, I didn't realize you guys wasn't saying it was a hack (inb4 dipshit I know, you made that quite clear).

Last thing and then I won't bother you guys anymore, what would you do with the Mew? Try to get back in touch with the guy you traded it with(about a month ago ca) or just released and be done with it?

Also I fully accept being muted/banned.

Agonist
Jan 6th, 2013, 08:55 PM
I'd release the Mew since it's a hack, but it's up to you.

shiroji
Jan 12th, 2013, 07:32 AM
(please forgive this if it double posts, I thought this thread was for Gen 5 only)
I don't know if this has been addressed but I uploaded Mindy's Haunter from Platinum and the LA has red text in several places.
ID/SID
PID
Locations
Is there a reason for that?

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3213163

Hozu
Jan 12th, 2013, 11:51 AM
Looks like that Haunter hasn't been added as an exception due to being an in-game trade. Don't worry about it.

Hozu
Jan 13th, 2013, 11:24 AM
Do the wondercards themselves say somewhere what game they can be from? I made the silly mistake of not realizing that a certain wondercard was from B/W2 only when I injected it into B/W1, and the LA didn't say anything was wrong.

Dark Ray
Jan 13th, 2013, 07:00 PM
LA doesn't seem to be checking for the DW flag on events, http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3231053 is not legal.

Agonist
Jan 13th, 2013, 07:32 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2225541

This isn't the event one.

Hozu
Jan 14th, 2013, 02:50 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3234651

I'm guessing not all of the wondercards for the Super-Strong JP events were added to the database. I got the pgf from the event page here at pp.org

Hozu
Jan 17th, 2013, 12:45 AM
The GeoNet locations seem to be different between 4th gen and 5th gen. I'm guessing that it has to do with the incompatibility between Korean games and all other language games in 4th gen.

Hozu
Jan 24th, 2013, 07:49 PM
While it's not possible to register the save file with an OT that matches an existing event, it is possible to do it before the event was added to the database. I guess it comes down to Xfr's judgment as to what should happen with that...

Hozu
Jan 26th, 2013, 04:10 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3375553

Deoxys\xFFFF\xFFFF\xFFFF\xFFFF\xFFFF

Those aren't valid Pal Park trash bytes are they?

Hymmnos
Jan 27th, 2013, 05:47 PM
Dark Pulse is coming up as illegal / red on Genesect.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=3387085&la

The tutor in Lentimas / Yamaji town teaches it for 10 Blue Shards.
Any comments on this?

illustica
Jan 31st, 2013, 12:43 PM
Hehehe, reporting a false alarm.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=3427220&la
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3427187
It says "Invalid Egg Receive Date" and "Met Date Is In the Future"
I live in an advanced timezone, so IT IS February 1st. c: Don't know why it should say that, hahaha I live in the future!

Kaphotics
Jan 31st, 2013, 05:50 PM
It says "Invalid Egg Receive Date" and "Met Date Is In the Future"
I live in an advanced timezone, so IT IS February 1st. c: Don't know why it should say that, hahaha I live in the future!

Orange color isn't a flag for "Hacked", it's a caution. If it were illegal, you'd get the red color. (There's no false positive here!)

illustica
Feb 1st, 2013, 12:50 AM
Orange color isn't a flag for "Hacked", it's a caution. If it were illegal, you'd get the red color. (There's no false positive here!)


Okie dokie. Thanks!

Hozu
Feb 1st, 2013, 01:56 PM
Just so you know, the default time for the server is PST. Since you live in Australia, if you catch something after midnight for about... I want to say a 20 hour window, your time zone is one day ahead of the server. Hence, it's considered in the future.


Dark Pulse is coming up as illegal / red on Genesect.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=3387085&la

The tutor in Lentimas / Yamaji town teaches it for 10 Blue Shards.
Any comments on this?

I think this is a result of the original tutor list rip was missing Genesect and Deoxys forms. Thus stuff had to be added manually (?).

TheDoc
Feb 1st, 2013, 04:29 PM
I've been having the trouble of "Ability Valid, does not match PID" on my Carracosta... Is there a reason for this?

I have the same problems.

Hozu
Feb 1st, 2013, 05:14 PM
It means exit out of Pokesav/Pokegen/Pokedit and get your mons in-game.

TheDoc
Feb 1st, 2013, 05:36 PM
please go away and spam somewhere else

Hozu
Feb 1st, 2013, 06:25 PM
"WAAAH MY HACKS ARE SHOWING UP AS HACKS"

Working as intended.

Snow
Feb 1st, 2013, 07:25 PM
YES! It works! - Thank you!

And what is by my Starmie in Platin: "Requires modest lead synchronizer"?

Locations Valid encounter (esv=85, slot 3, super rod).
Requires modest lead synchronizer

It means the poke was caught with a modest sync like mew.

TheDoc
Feb 1st, 2013, 07:57 PM
it is legal or illegal now?

Snow
Feb 1st, 2013, 08:11 PM
it is legal or illegal now?

Depends

Agonist
Feb 2nd, 2013, 12:45 PM
it is legal or illegal now?

Well since you clearly didn't have any idea what that means, despite being necessary to actually get it, it's quite obviously hacked.

Hozu
Feb 4th, 2013, 07:37 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3474677

A user reported that downloading a mon into his Pearl game's PC caused his game to freeze every time he accessed his PC. If this is true, then it would be wise to make it impossible to download mons with no name via GTS.

dcrispell7
Feb 5th, 2013, 04:03 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3478124

► Locations Possible method J/K slots don't match encounter.

Riolu appeared on slot 5 for me based on the number of blocks I had and the fact that they leveled up. Given the fact that a person can manipulate the blocks in the SZ a person can pretty much put the pokemon on any slot they want (granted, it may take a few months to let the blocks level up enough to drag out other pokemon, but it is still possible).

Interestingly enough, another pokemon that only appears with the blocks, Beldum http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3468924 shows up just fine.

EDIT: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3479053 The LA doesn't seem to like Bagon either.

mirkosp
Feb 5th, 2013, 01:05 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3480657

Gives an "Unknown GBA PID." error ─ this was caught as a shroomish in my sapphire cartridge, though I think I was playing on Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire for the Game Cube.
It was then trained and evolved in leaf green, in which it had the TMs taught, then passed onto soulsilver and finally black.

Kaphotics
Feb 5th, 2013, 07:08 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3480657

Gives an "Unknown GBA PID." error ─ this was caught as a shroomish in my sapphire cartridge, though I think I was playing on Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire for the Game Cube.
It was then trained and evolved in leaf green, in which it had the TMs taught, then passed onto soulsilver and finally black.

..wut

Not entirely convinced on the "legitimacy" of this, but...


Ran the PID through SCV's IVPID, no match.
Ran the IVs to search for any nature...

Original: E50282AC

3223498677 - C022AFB5
2947912866 - AFB594A2
2700492741 - A0F63FC5
1069878321 - 3FC50C31
1590528366 - 5ECD896E

2305730599 - 896EA827
2821184918 - A827DD96
2177552340 - 81CACFD4
3486811072 - CFD483C0
1075982261 - 40222FB5

800396450 - 2FB514A2
553041861 - 20F6BFC5
3217394737 - BFC58C31
3737979246 - DECD096E
158214183 - 096E2827

673668502 - 28275D96
30035924 - 01CA4FD4
1339294656 - 4FD403C0

no match/close similarity. Likely another RNG formula if this is legitimate.

Pretty certain that it is not a PIDIV derived from the gen3/4 LCRNG formula.

Hozu
Feb 5th, 2013, 10:54 PM
Box R/S is the same as playing on a GBA in terms of the Pokémon generation function. That Breloom isn't even the fabled Method 3 so...

dcrispell7
Feb 6th, 2013, 01:19 AM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3485147

Tailwind shows up as hacked for Vibrava (interestingly enough, it registers fine for flygon http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3485165)

mirkosp
Feb 6th, 2013, 09:15 AM
Guys, I can really assure you that HAS been caught on a legitimate italian copy of sapphire without any AR hack nor anything. If I can do something to further research on this (more pkm or something), then tell me what to do.

EDIT: If it can help, the cartridge's battery has run dry, and I had used the jirachi from Pokémon Channel in the past to fix the berry bug (not sure if that changes the RNG workings but I thought it would be something to mention).

EDIT2: Actually, might want to check if it perhaps was an egg, rather than been caught in the wild, because that probably was how I did it.

Hozu
Feb 6th, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oh if it was an egg... yeah that would make sense. R/S egg behaviour is not documented very well. In theory there is no way for there to be less than 3 IVs to be inherited, but it can happen. Problem is, that never seems to happen when a debugger is being used. Also, Box R/S is notably slower than a real GBA, thus the chance for PRNG states to be skipped is even greater as seen by my Method 4 Regis.

mirkosp
Feb 8th, 2013, 07:39 AM
IIRC what I did (we're talking of at least a couple of weeks ago) was catch some shroomish first (but without much luck) and then breed a couple of brelooms until I found a jolly shroomish so I could later use it with an adamant dwf in gen 5 and reuse them as parents regardless of the nature I'd need in specific instances.

Either way, if it could be of any help, I could hunt down the parents (I should still have them in the sapphire cartridge) and get them on Pokécheck. Otherwise I guess I'll just leave it be. I only reported it because it seemed odd to me it resulted hacked since it really wasn't.

Kaphotics
Feb 8th, 2013, 05:29 PM
When you posted you said that you captured it; but now you say that this 'mon was bred. If you were breeding, then that's probably what happened. Egg PIDs are not too easy to detect (legal.exe couldn't). If it's a R/S one there is a particular breeding method but you probably had a split in an odd place... I dunno.

mirkosp
Feb 9th, 2013, 09:35 AM
Yeah, I'm sorry, as I said I originally was catching male shrooomish, but since I wanted a jolly nature and it was taking too long (I forgot that synchronize doesn't work until emerald), I eventually started breeding and got it like that, but forgot about it when I was posting (as I said, this was a good couple of weeks ago at least).

Hozu
Feb 10th, 2013, 07:07 PM
Can ALL eggs be disabled from being downloaded via GTS? Every complaint about receiving a bad egg from Pokecheck comes from downloading an egg. Not to mention people complaining about the egg that was shiny not hatching shiny because they don't know game mechanics.

Pingouin7
Feb 10th, 2013, 07:25 PM
I've figured out that Pal Parking a Japanese Gen III Pokémon to an English Gen IV game produces an error saying that the OT Trash Bytes are invalid even though the Pokémon was obtained and transferred legitimately.
Example here, if it helps. (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3532741)

Hozu
Feb 10th, 2013, 08:30 PM
I've figured out that Pal Parking a Japanese Gen III Pokémon to an English Gen IV game produces an error saying that the OT Trash Bytes are invalid even though the Pokémon was obtained and transferred legitimately.
Example here, if it helps. (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3532741)

Quit lying. Seriously. You're not fooling anyone. Anyone with even rudimentary knowledge about how trash bytes work KNOWS for a fact that they are 100% wrong.

Hint: Pokecheck supports RETAIL CARTS only. Any different behaviour from anything else is not supported because it's not legal.

Hint 2: I Pal Parked 3rd gen JP mons and none of them have red flags. So it's not a general problem.

Hozu
Feb 11th, 2013, 04:39 PM
Just an FYI both Custap and Jaboca berries are legitimately released via DW now. Since other berries that have been released are kept upon download, it would be a good idea to add those two to the list.

Pingouin7
Feb 11th, 2013, 07:22 PM
Quit lying. Seriously. You're not fooling anyone. Anyone with even rudimentary knowledge about how trash bytes work KNOWS for a fact that they are 100% wrong.

Hint: Pokecheck supports RETAIL CARTS only. Any different behaviour from anything else is not supported because it's not legal.

Hint 2: I Pal Parked 3rd gen JP mons and none of them have red flags. So it's not a general problem.
Why do you have to act like this? When I say that it was obtained legitimately, it means that no cheats or hacks or any sort were used to obtain it.
This was obtained from a rom of Sapphire on a flashcart, traded to an English Ruby retail cart, transferred to a retail cart of Diamond.
From there, the .pkm file was backed up and transferred to Gen V using Pokécheck's transfer option (though I really doubt Pokécheck messed it up, since the non-transferred Gen IV format .pkm file has the same problem.)
If the fact it was obtained on a rom on a flashcart is the reason why it messed up like this, then you can just tell me that's the problem and move on. (Does Gen III even have trash bytes btw?)

Kaphotics
Feb 11th, 2013, 09:36 PM
To answer the underlying question: Pokecheck only supports Retail cartridge Pal Parking, which entails retail GBA cart to retail DS cart.

(3g pkm's & trash bytes) Not sure. Export a 3gpkm with a save editor and check the character map.

Pingouin7
Feb 11th, 2013, 09:52 PM
To answer the underlying question: Pokecheck only supports Retail cartridge Pal Parking, which entails retail GBA cart to retail DS cart.

(3g pkm's & trash bytes) Not sure. Export a 3gpkm with a save editor and check the character map.
For future reference:

Another Mudkip from that same rom of Sapphire on the same flashcard, this time with a longer OT which seems to prevent the problem. (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3544033)
A Rattata caught in my retail Japanese LeafGreen which shows the same problem. (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3544300)

In both cases, these were traded to Ruby and then Pal-Parked to Diamond (then transfered to Gen V format via Pokecheck's Gen IV to Gen V transfer option; I can provide the Gen IV .pkm files if needed.)

Hozu
Feb 12th, 2013, 01:32 AM
-Got the starter in JP Sapphire ROM (with a 1 char OT name no less)
-Traded to NA Emerald ROM to clone
-Traded to NA Sapphire ROM
-Wrote save to NA Sapphire cart
-Pal Parked from retail NA Sapphire to retail NA Pearl
-Uploaded from retail NA Pearl to Pokécheck via GTS
Result:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3546590
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3546592

Keeping the mons private to preserve the philosophy of the shoutbox's rule 3/OP of this thread. However, any Pokecheck admins can clearly see that my original post predicting this situation is 100% correct (D/P Pal Park behaviour is identical). All of Pingouin's Mudkips do not match retail cart behaviour, thus are not legal. Legality analysis is working properly.

Hint: Stop using hacking programs for ANY purpose. I know exactly what happened, and what caused this. It was Pingouin opening Pokegen. He basically said it himself.

Hozu
Feb 12th, 2013, 04:06 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3316533

Mew is not a valid Dream World Pokémon.

Quartos
Feb 12th, 2013, 05:08 PM
First: Hello everybody, I'm new in the forums! :-)
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3551971
This Unfezant is a normal story pokemon of me. That means I caught, named and trained it in a normal way. Everything is correct and valid, just the trashbytes of the nickname seem to be messy. And I simply don't understand why. In Pokegen it looks like this: "Al Gore\FFFFrr". I'm a legality checker too, but I've never seen something like that before. If I wouldn't know better I'd say it's not legit as well. But it is, I 've already renamed it and so on to maybe correct the wrong trashbytes, but the result is the same. I guess if you catch a pokemon in B2/W2 and name it like this, you'd get the same strange values. (By the way, please ignore the stupid nickname, I guess I was drunk.) So what's the problem? Why is the nickname not generated like this: "Al Gore\FFFF\0000\0000\FFFF"?

Hozu
Feb 12th, 2013, 05:13 PM
This thread isn't for how or why X situation is legal. It is merely to report errors. If something happens purely by in-game means on an unmodified game, then the results are legal. Don't mess with things in Pokegen because you'll probably end up with something illegal. Example, "Al Gore\FFFF\0000\0000\FFFF" is illegal at this point.

Remember, anything obtained in-game on an unmodified game is legitimate and legal. If the legality analysis says it's not, that's what this thread is for.

Quartos
Feb 12th, 2013, 05:28 PM
Yes, that's why I wrote this post. Pokecheck says that "Al Gore\FFFFrr" is not legit. And I just asked why the game generates the bytes that way and not like "Al Gore\FFFF\0000\0000\FFFF" (Which would be correct for gen5-pokemon names with 7 characters). And I didn't edit anything in Pokegen, I just loaded the file in it to view the issue by myself. Sorry if I'm not allowed to ask such questions, I just thought there would be a simple solution for this.

Kaphotics
Feb 12th, 2013, 06:30 PM
When the game renames something, any overwritten character gets replaced. Any character that isn't changed doesn't get effected.

ABCDEFG\ffff\0000\ffff
name abc->write abc\ffff to nick field
abc\ffff\EFG\ffff\0000\ffff

The new name string overwrites the old, but only for how many bytes the new name is. If the new string is shorter than the previous, there's stuff left over. Most names are capped at the final character with \ffff depending on the method of generation.

This thread is not for discussing how Pokecheck exposes hacks, only to expose flaws in how it does it.

Pingouin7
Feb 12th, 2013, 06:51 PM
-Got the starter in JP Sapphire ROM (with a 1 char OT name no less)
-Traded to NA Emerald ROM to clone
-Traded to NA Sapphire ROM
-Wrote save to NA Sapphire cart
-Pal Parked from retail NA Sapphire to retail NA Pearl
-Uploaded from retail NA Pearl to Pokécheck via GTS
Result:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3546590
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3546592

Keeping the mons private to preserve the philosophy of the shoutbox's rule 3/OP of this thread. However, any Pokecheck admins can clearly see that my original post predicting this situation is 100% correct (D/P Pal Park behaviour is identical). All of Pingouin's Mudkips do not match retail cart behaviour, thus are not legal. Legality analysis is working properly.

Hint: Stop using hacking programs for ANY purpose. I know exactly what happened, and what caused this. It was Pingouin opening Pokegen. He basically said it himself.

So PokéGen is what messed up the Pokémon?
That's good to know; in that case, I will upload them to Pokécheck via Wi-Fi (Edit: This worked fine indeed.)
Upon further inspection, it appears that PokéGen was, for some reason, removing the last trash byte when saving as a .pkm; but that is a problem for another day (I realize that this whole discussion could have been avoided had I noticed that earlier, and for that I apologize.)
But thanks for taking the time to point out the error.

Quartos
Feb 12th, 2013, 07:15 PM
When the game renames something, any overwritten character gets replaced. Any character that isn't changed doesn't get effected.

ABCDEFG\ffff\0000\ffff
name abc->write abc\ffff to nick field
abc\ffff\EFG\ffff\0000\ffff

Ah, okay, I understand. I caught this Unfezant as a Pidove. The german name of Pidove is "Dusselgurr" (It's from a german edition). So the two "r"s are leftovers from the old, original name, right? That would also explain why there's no final \FFFF, the name "Dusselgurr" already has 10 characters, in this case no trashbytes become added, they just do if the name has 9 characters or less (For example "Tranquill\FFFF\FFFF"), correct? Well, in this case that issue should be added to the legality analysis, I guess. :/

Hozu
Feb 12th, 2013, 07:24 PM
Is the message you're getting red? Or orange? This is implemented for English/JP names at least...

Kaphotics
Feb 12th, 2013, 07:55 PM
Ah, okay, I understand. I caught this Unfezant as a Pidove. The german name of Pidove is "Dusselgurr" (It's from a german edition). So the two "r"s are leftovers from the old, original name, right? That would also explain why there's no final \FFFF, the name "Dusselgurr" already has 10 characters, in this case no trashbytes become added, they just do if the name has 9 characters or less (For example "Tranquill\FFFF\FFFF"), correct? Well, in this case that issue should be added to the legality analysis, I guess. :/

no, the original name should be Dusselgurr\xFFFF not Dusselgurr\x0000

You can't magically lose the terminator.

cough cough pokegen

Quartos
Feb 12th, 2013, 08:37 PM
Is the message you're getting red? Or orange? This is implemented for English/JP names at least...
It's red, seems to be a bigger problem.


no, the original name should be Dusselgurr\xFFFF not Dusselgurr\x0000

You can't magically lose the terminator.

cough cough pokegen
Okay, so the idea of making a backup of my save and then extract the .pkm-file through PokéGen just failed. :D Didn't know PokéGen messes up with the trashbytes to be honest. So the real name of Unfezant is "Al Gore\xFFFF\x7200\x7200\xFFFF", right?
I'm so sorry for wasting your time, just one more thing: Is there anything else PokéGen is doing wrong? Are there some alternate programs I could use for opening a .sav file if PokéGen is too risky? Sorry again, my main knowledge about this stuff is from 2010 I guess, the good old times with legit.exe, pokésav and so on.

Hozu
Feb 12th, 2013, 10:34 PM
Here's what you do. Delete Pokegen. Forever. Now you will have no more problems.

ProjectTitan313
Feb 14th, 2013, 04:08 PM
Parents for valid egg move combination is a bit wacky on this Natu http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3294305 Specifically, Sucker Punch.
Roost/Zen Headbutt are indeed egg moves, but also tutors in BW2 so can be dismissed on parents. Starly, Swablu, HootHoot, Pidgey, Spearow, Ducklett evolution lines and Farfetch'd do not learn Sucker Punch at all (which on this Gen 5 Natu is egg move only, not tutor). Only... Murkrow line does, as best as I can tell. I bred that from a male Natu already on Pokécheck, as I often do, but the moveset should be legal regardless of the wacky list of parents (Featherdance+Sucker Punch from Honchkrow, Zen Headbutt/Roost by tutor or Honchkrow on Roost).

Kaphotics
Feb 14th, 2013, 06:38 PM
Remember, the point is to provide a possible scenario where it could be legal, not discern the exact method that you achieved the end product.

It's likely referring to a possible chain of breeding, rather than a direct set of parents.

Localhorst
Feb 16th, 2013, 04:47 PM
Not quite sure if this is a bug or not, but i thought i mention it since i think it might be one. It's about this one: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3575763 , it is recognized as a hatched pokemon, but actually it was caught, according to legal.exe its PID is the rare A-B-D-F Type.
Why I'm not sure if this is a bug: It wasn't caught on a normal FR game, it was caught on the FR Hack Liquid Crystal. That Hack might be different in PID generation (though i don't really think so), but as legal.exe indicates that Type and Pokecheck just finds an egg PID for that spread i thought it might be a bug.

Hozu
Feb 16th, 2013, 05:10 PM
ABDF isn't possible for any legal Pokémon from a retail game I believe. Since Pokécheck supports retail games, any modified behaviour caused by ROM hacks are not supported.

Localhorst
Feb 16th, 2013, 05:45 PM
Sure, I'm not complaining about it not appearing legal. In case A-B-D-F is not possible at all, it is just because of the Romhack.

Agonist
Feb 17th, 2013, 02:16 PM
Reposted from Musicmeister of Smogon:



Some of the pokemon I RNG'd had a problem with the "trainer name" when I transferred it to 5th gen via que for transfer to 5th gen using pokecheck.

Here's the pokemon I uploaded earlier https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3590970

The trainer name has dot symbols (ˇMUSICˇ) but when I transfer it to 5th gen, via que for transfer to 5th gen, the trainer name becomes messed up. The trainer name ˇMUSICˇ becomes UMUSICD.

I reuploaded the pokemon which shows a trainer name with UMUSICD on my White 2 game right here https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3591174

The trainer name became *Shiro when I uploaded it on Pokecheck. Is this a bug?

The Shiro* is because of the censoring something in the name is censored, but I don't about the first issue.

Agonist
Feb 20th, 2013, 11:31 PM
Reposting this issue:

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2225541

for some reason Pokecheck thinks that it was an event egg traded to hatch shiny.

PokemonBN2
Feb 21st, 2013, 03:55 PM
"×" not recognized as legal
Pokemon Nicknamed "×××!!" https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3641988
The same pokemon Nicknamed "Tes!!" https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3642086

Image

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9823/87621101.jpg

dcrispell7
Feb 26th, 2013, 10:54 AM
Dream Radar Giratina-O (uploaded via GTS) shows the ability as hacked: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3702100

For comparison, the same Giratina uploaded without the orb shows up just fine: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2864702

KingCarini
Mar 3rd, 2013, 07:12 PM
Transfered Masquerain to HeartGold, then to White 2. Check assumes it was hatched, but I caught it with an Ultra Ball as a Surskit:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3758882

Kaphotics
Mar 3rd, 2013, 07:22 PM
Not telling you why Pokecheck responds as such. It's still obviously hacked.

Your account has multiple other uploads with the same PID, but different IVs. Indicative of an action replay/gameshark code for shiny Pokemon...

ID: 10447 =0x28CF
SID: 35513 =0x8AB9

PID: 0x8AB928CF

Please do not report Pokemon that are not legitimate.

thernn
Mar 4th, 2013, 08:50 PM
I was a bit confused if I should post this here as I am new but I want to help.

Keldeo and Meloetta both are reporting what I am entirely sure are false positives.

Examples

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3753707 <--- Keldeo has perfect IVs which is basically impossible for any poke even more so for an event.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3704309 <---- Perfect IVs and was met before the actual release date on March 4.
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3762599 <-- Meloetta has 4 31's IVs and 2 30's

Kaphotics
Mar 4th, 2013, 09:49 PM
I was a bit confused if I should post this here as I am new but I want to help.

Keldeo and Meloetta both are reporting what I am entirely sure are false positives.

Examples

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3753707 <--- Keldeo has perfect IVs which is basically impossible for any poke even more so for an event.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3704309 <---- Perfect IVs and was met before the actual release date on March 4.
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3762599 <-- Meloetta has 4 31's IVs and 2 30's

Abusing the Random Number Generator (http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/) (legitimate) can allow people to receive Pokemon with flawless IVs. It just involves a lot of prediction and number crunching.

Certain locations had the Meloetta available for download earlier than March 4th.

randomspot555
Mar 5th, 2013, 03:50 PM
Also the date is 100% legal as long as the DS can be set to it. The date is reflective of the DS internal clock, not what the actual day or time it is in the world.

Italianguy
Mar 6th, 2013, 01:00 AM
randomspot555 edit: Because it apparently hasn't been clear enough, this thread is strictly for reporting ERRORS in PokeCheck's Legality Analyses. Anything beyond that is off-topic and may get you an an infraction.


Hi everyone I have a quick question. Is it considered an error if a legit Pokemon that I hatched from an egg, who's parents were also legit (neither were edited or RNG abused) but the child comes up saying, " IVs This Pokémon is likely edited or RNG abused."

Should I be reporting here things like that? Or is this thread strictly for things that come up in red?

Thanks for the clarification.

Kaphotics
Mar 6th, 2013, 02:00 AM
Or is this thread strictly for things that come up in red?

^

orange -> caution, not indicative of a hack

mirkosp
Mar 6th, 2013, 07:44 PM
Not a false positive, but a small mistake nonetheless.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3783422

It reports it as Method K, but extremespeed dratini from the dragon's den is Method 1: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpphgss_rng_part2

Hozu
Mar 6th, 2013, 09:15 PM
Not a false positive, but a small mistake nonetheless.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3783422

It reports it as Method K, but extremespeed dratini from the dragon's den is Method 1: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpphgss_rng_part2

That has been an issue for quite some time now. Roamers are in the same boat.

A user had uploaded a level 21 Lucario with moves ExtremeSpeed and Close Combat. This is illegal because Riolu cannot inherit them as level-up egg moves, nor can Lucario have learned them at such a low level. However, the LA flags them as level-up egg moves.

Hozu
Mar 7th, 2013, 12:18 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3788377

Apparently the LA doesn't like eggs hatched at Pledge Grove.

Thepenguinking2
Mar 9th, 2013, 06:27 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2vxioig.png
It says that this shiny genesect's shine is legitimate, but according to bulbapedia, Shiny genesects are impossible to obtain.

RainThunder
Mar 10th, 2013, 03:33 AM
Pokemon Emerald was never released in Korea:
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3815597

Agonist
Mar 10th, 2013, 06:48 PM
Legality analysis doesn't seem to like Primo's eggs when they're traded (HGSS).

Here's one hatched on the receiving game (and doesn't have any issues with the legality analysis). http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3814083

And the two that were traded (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3814203 and http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3818733 (from Mandrew's game to another of his, and from his game to my HG)).

SmashingEmeraldz
Mar 13th, 2013, 07:34 PM
A while ago I uploaded Jolteon, Flareon, and Vaporeon. The Legality Analysis says that their PID is hacked and they have no encounter. I got them as an Eevee from Bill in Goldenrod City in HeartGold and SoulSilver. You can tell that they aren't cloned from one Eevee because they all have different PIDs, Natures, and Base Stats.
Jolteon
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2934958
Flareon
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2934944
Vaporeon
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2934942

Kaphotics
Mar 13th, 2013, 09:12 PM
Eevee @ Bill is Method 1 Gift, not whatever you got. Something interfered (AR,edited) for those.

Example of an actual legitimate one:
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3442546

Hozu
Mar 14th, 2013, 01:05 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3793126

The Ninjask evolution glitch does not exist in 5th gen. As such, any 5th gen Shedinja cannot have moves exclusive to that glitch.

SmashingEmeraldz
Mar 14th, 2013, 08:16 PM
Eevee @ Bill is Method 1 Gift, not whatever you got. Something interfered (AR,edited) for those.

Example of an actual legitimate one:
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3442546

All I used the action replay for was leveling them up to level 75 though. Does that effect the legitimately of a Pokemon's info?

Hozu
Mar 14th, 2013, 08:28 PM
You did something that altered the Pokémon in such a way that an unmodified cart cannot create itself. Play without an AR and you won't have any legality issues.

Thepenguinking2
Mar 15th, 2013, 02:33 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/2u6jpyh.png
I was making an event meloetta, but it says It has no event for it to be legal, but on Pokegen, I set it to "obtained in game event" as well as "Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey tree/Shaymin".
EDIT: I see what I did wrong. I needed to set it to "Pokemon Movie 12" instead of "Game event."

Kaphotics
Mar 15th, 2013, 02:56 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/2u6jpyh.png
I was making an event meloetta, but it says It has no event for it to be legal, but on Pokegen, I set it to "obtained in game event" as well as "Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey tree/Shaymin".
EDIT: I see what I did wrong. I needed to set it to "Pokemon Movie 12" instead of "Game event."

>making an event meloetta

This thread is for reporting legitimate Pokemon that have false LA results. Not for making hacked Pokemon look legal.

ProjectTitan313
Mar 15th, 2013, 07:08 PM
Union Cave Lapras is flagged as unknown encounter http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3873387
I don't think the date for the seed is a Friday, but I just saved in its face and talked to it after hitting frame+seed if that might be the issue.

Agonist
Mar 17th, 2013, 10:41 PM
That has been an issue for quite some time now. Roamers are in the same boat.

A user had uploaded a level 21 Lucario with moves ExtremeSpeed and Close Combat. This is illegal because Riolu cannot inherit them as level-up egg moves, nor can Lucario have learned them at such a low level. However, the LA flags them as level-up egg moves.

In a similar vein, this is illegal: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3892162

Tyrogue cannot learn either Close Combat, or Detect, so there isn't any way for them to be level-up moves inherited from the parents (and of course Ditto can't learn either move naturally). And obviously Hitmontop itself doesn't learn them until much later.

Edit: Unsurprisingly, the same idiot has another bad hack with the same issue: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3882676 . Same issue as above, this time with Blaze Kick.

Edit 2: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=538500 Gen 3 Shedinja retains the ball Nincada was caught in.

Hozu
Mar 18th, 2013, 01:06 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3901763

Met/egg received dates must be between 2000 and 2099 due to the date restrictions set by the console. DS can be 2000-2099, while 3DS can be 2000-2050.

Edit: DSi is also 2000-2099.

Technically the year is stored as a 1 byte value that can legally be between 0x00 and 0x63 inclusive at 0x7B in the .pkm file.

Vicjor
Mar 26th, 2013, 11:03 AM
This pokémon solo spread with male sex

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3917253

Hozu
Mar 26th, 2013, 06:24 PM
This pokémon solo spread with male sex

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3917253

The wondercard data explicitly allows it to be any gender. All information about wondercard events is pulled directly from wondercards.

Nigoli
Mar 27th, 2013, 06:48 PM
This pokémon solo spread with male sexhttp://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?15282-Gen-V-Event-Collection-and-Contribution-Thread&p=162685&viewfull=1#post162685

This can be random.

BlackShark
Mar 30th, 2013, 10:31 AM
Why is this Magikarp shown as hacked? It's an ingame trade from german Platinum on Route 226.
http://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=4043563&la

Hozu
Apr 1st, 2013, 04:13 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4080228

The egg hatched location must exist in the game version of origin for 4th gen format eggs, unless the Egg Received location is Link Trade. Example, in Solaceon Town does not exist in HG/SS.

Edit: Could there be mouseover text for CntSt to explain that it means Contest Stats? Also, come to think of it, that applies for 5th gen eggs, but even when traded (ie. no B/W1 version w/ egg hatched at Virbank, or B/W2 version w/ egg at Route 10). Just not 4th gen eggs in 5th gen format (hatch location becomes Poketransfer).

Oh and of course, Cold Storage and PWT have the same hex for the location.

Hozu
Apr 2nd, 2013, 01:17 PM
I noticed that eggs hatched in B/W2 that have all flawless (or 30s) for IVs have a red flag for IVs. However, it also shows up for eggs with the egg received location as Link Trade. Could there be an orange message saying "Probably edited or RNG abused on another game" instead?

Edit: https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4094553 That wondercard that I downloaded from this site isn't on the LA. Same with the Sceptile from my account.

dcrispell7
Apr 2nd, 2013, 07:01 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4095294

Helping Hand is showing up as hacked for gen 4 Poliwag even though it is a valid move tutor in HG/SS (and probably Plaitnum too, but I didn't check on that version so I don't know which tutors are HG/SS exclusive).

Upon transfer to gen 5 the move shows up just fine, however.

Uzumaki Naruto
Apr 6th, 2013, 02:52 PM
It seems the move should be from a event only, and the move may be incompatible with another move.

Dark Ray
Apr 6th, 2013, 03:27 PM
Pokewalker Pikachu with Fly (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2065997) and Surf (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2599654) is showing up as legal when transferred to 5th gen, due to the "no HM moves" restriction for Poketransfer it's not.

randomspot555
Apr 9th, 2013, 04:20 PM
Had to delete some posts to get rid of the offending content.

As Hozu said, the purpose of this thread is to report bugs in Pokecheck's legality analysis. It is not to declare if something is hacked or not or how to make stuff legal.

Anyone going off topic in the thread is eligible for post deletion and infractions. Please feel free to Report or PM me for any rule offenders.

Hozu
Apr 11th, 2013, 03:35 PM
This isn't with the LA itself but... for the Spanish translation, Farfetch'd is missing in the drop-down list of Pokémon.

Dark Ray
Apr 12th, 2013, 01:43 AM
The message "This Pokémon should have trash bytes." should not appear on this Pokemon. https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4188421

EXEC_HARMONIOUS/.
Apr 12th, 2013, 06:30 PM
Disregard this, I misread something.

1quacka1
Apr 13th, 2013, 01:53 PM
I'm wondering why the checker doesn't include a check for ribbons. Take this: https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2362804 , for example. It has several GenIII-only ribbons despite it being obtained in GenIV, not only that it has several Battle Tower/Frontier medals despite Mew being unable to compete in it. Yet Pokécheck says it's ok. Those kind of things would be easy to look for, though I do realise my next suggestions will be a bit harder

There's also "suspicious" (yellow text) things to look out for, but it's a bit harder: for example a Pokémon having the "master" rank medal in 2 or more contest categories would be suspicious - as it's hard to max out 2 stats. Indeed you can even look at the contest stats to see if it has a high stat in a category it got a master rank medal in. Contest stats are still in GenV you just can't see them. If you Pokétransfered a Feebas with max beauty and leveled it up it still evolves. Another thing to look for here would be the fact that for it to have any contest ribbon, it also needs the ribbon that's ranked below it (ie, a pokemon with a genIII master ribbon also needs hyper, super and normal of the same type. without hyper it couldn't compete in master, without super it couldn't compete in hyper, without normal it couldn't compete in super)

For GenIV pokes you check for ribbons removed in GenV, which were presumably removed because they were never used. There are other ribbons still in the code that bulbapedia claim have not been made avialable, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Ribbons_in_the_games . They'll be hard to verify whether or not they have been made available, but stuff like "World Champion Ribbon" should at least be considered suspicious.

Hozu
Apr 14th, 2013, 05:01 PM
There's also "suspicious" (yellow text) things to look out for, but it's a bit harder: for example a Pokémon having the "master" rank medal in 2 or more contest categories would be suspicious - as it's hard to max out 2 stats. Indeed you can even look at the contest stats to see if it has a high stat in a category it got a master rank medal in.

I don't know how good poffins can be for raising contest stats in 4th gen, but in 3rd gen it is possible to max out all 5 contest stats apparently... though that requires 4 people (not just 4 GBAs). Thus getting master rank ribbons in all 5 categories isn't impossible. You don't even need to max the contest stats to win them all - I've got all 3rd and 4th gen contest ribbons with ~180ish in all 5 stats. It is possible to get ~180ish in the 5 contest stats with just one cart, though that requires the stat pinch berries (all but Liechi are from Col/XD, Liechi is from Mirage Island only).

Edit: Could there be a question in the FAQ regarding how to get the favourite Pokémon to show in the LA and Battle Vids?

Hozu
Apr 15th, 2013, 02:51 AM
It appears that the eggs from My Pokémon Ranch are set to have their level met as 1 instead of 0. The LA currently flags this as illegal.

Kaphotics
Apr 16th, 2013, 08:34 AM
Event Ribbon shows up as "History Ribbon"; it shouldn't.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3851897
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4226931

I believe the Gen 4 ribbon name is taking precedence over the Gen 5 name (they are Gen 5 PKMs)

Preziise
Apr 18th, 2013, 01:50 AM
I've heard from some other people that they were having problems with "cloned" Pokemon but this one here is 100% not cloned and shouldn't be showing as having 2 pokechecks.
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4242821
I just caught this yesterday and it said last night that it was unique but then today it changed to showing up twice. It definitely did not go public as well.

Kaphotics
Apr 18th, 2013, 03:02 AM
not a false positive

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4250089 @theinter
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4242821 @preziise

Possible aliases: theinter, eksuos

it's in the database twice.
http://i.snag.gy/qOKLF.jpg

Preziise
Apr 19th, 2013, 12:41 AM
not a false positive

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4250089 @theinter
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4242821 @preziise

Possible aliases: theinter, eksuos

it's in the database twice.
http://i.snag.gy/qOKLF.jpg

How exactly is that possible? Is there a way for people to get a hold of pokemon that aren't public?

Crystal Noel
Apr 20th, 2013, 12:47 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=4274715&la
The name of the OT is exactly the same as one that came up as legit.
https://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=4274229&la
Also it has the correct hidden ability. What is up with that?

theSLAYER
Apr 20th, 2013, 02:11 PM
Hello All,

I'm *pretty* sure I did not hack this pokemon (Hatched Togepi in GEN 4)

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4275625

Just to let you peeps know.

Thanks! :)

EDIT:

I know the "Hacked / Event Move" refers to Extrasensory,

I'm more concerned of the "Unknown Location" portion :/

Kaphotics
Apr 20th, 2013, 07:17 PM
it's hacked.

theSLAYER
Apr 28th, 2013, 12:23 AM
it's hacked.

Wow that sucks. I was quite sure I hatched it normally.


Anyway thanks for the info, I'll delete it shortly!

TheDoc
May 5th, 2013, 01:47 PM
Hallo, a have a Electivire from Hoenn (Emerald) of my German White 2.
The Original Trainer Language is German but Pokécheck Found valid English Pal Park trash bytes.
Is It Legal?

Kaphotics
May 5th, 2013, 03:47 PM
There's no trash bytes possible for a totally capped name, so if it was pal parked to an english game it'd be exactly the same as a german game

nothing wrong here

TonyClownbox
May 7th, 2013, 10:09 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4250390

Theres the link. It's an American DW Bulbasaur that read no errors. If I'm not mistaken though, Kanto starters were only given in Japan with DW abilities, Sept, 2010. If someone can correct me that would be cool, actually.

evandixon
May 7th, 2013, 10:15 PM
http://serebii.net/events/dex/001.shtml
You're right, though the Pokémon is actually legal, because someone could have downloaded it to their game, and waited a year or two before capturing it.
Probably hacked, but technically legal.

RainThunder
May 8th, 2013, 01:28 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4250390

Theres the link. It's an American DW Bulbasaur that read no errors. If I'm not mistaken though, Kanto starters were only given in Japan with DW abilities, Sept, 2010. If someone can correct me that would be cool, actually.
Bulbasaur was also given in Korea (but not in US, though).

ProjectTitan313
May 8th, 2013, 06:15 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2402859 (No, its not mine :P )
The LA isn't reading Flatter/Captivate as Level Up Egg moves, it seems. Both NidoranM/F learn both moves by level up.

Kaphotics
May 9th, 2013, 10:16 PM
Mat487: My shiny Dragonite I received from Alder's grandson is a Pokestar, according to Pokecheck, but has never done anything to earn the title and plays the shiny animation when sent out, because it is shiny. What causes this?

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4494544

Says it's a pokestar shiny, but 0x87 = 0x19 (not > 250)

voodoo pimp
May 10th, 2013, 05:23 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4503965

Zen Headbutt is a tutor move for Genesect.

Champloo
May 19th, 2013, 08:03 PM
Upon loading up some Pal Parked Pokemon (of which I did about 22+) through an emulator only two pokemon came up with invalid trash bytes. I was able to rectify one of two by simply pal parking them again but no matter how many times I pal park the ONE Pokemon it continues to have invalid trash bytes. Any idea on why this is happening? I haven't altered the Pokemon in any way so I'm at a loss. Hopefully someone can help. I'll provide a link to the Pokemon as well.

Pal Parked Cleffa (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=box&bid=1&u=champloo)

Agonist
May 19th, 2013, 10:12 PM
Emulator trash bytes aren't supported afaik.

Champloo
May 19th, 2013, 11:51 PM
Emulator trash bytes aren't supported afaik.

Wouldn't that have affected ALL of the Pokemon I Pal Parked than? I just went ahead and Pal parked the cleffa via DS this time and I got the same issue...

EDIT: I'd like to add that the Clefairy version of this Cleffa doesn't have the invalid trash bytes (I pal parked it over as a clefairy) would this be any indicator to why it may be doing this?

Cleffa & Clefairy Pal Parked Via EMU (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=box&bid=1&u=champloo)

Dark Ray
May 20th, 2013, 01:25 AM
Dream Radar Giratina should have its DW ability https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4623125

Champloo
May 21st, 2013, 03:20 PM
So I went ahead and Poke Transfer'd the Cleffa that was coming out on the other end with invalid trash bytes on Gen IV and to my surprise it no longer has invalid trash bytes:

Poke Transfer'd Cleffa (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=box&bid=3&u=champloo)

Any idea as to why something like this would happen? I'm content with it resolving itself but knowledge is power I suppose so I'm interested on how this may have happened.

Hozu
May 21st, 2013, 03:42 PM
You shouldn't be extracting .pkm files if you want things to work properly...

Kaphotics
May 21st, 2013, 05:44 PM
Trash bytes are the result of memory pointers and preexisting strings not being cleared for subsequent use. They just get overwritten and the resulting string constitutes the palparked character-string.

You can read more about them on our wiki (http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Trash_Bytes); the first Pokemon parked will have one set of trash and 2-6 will have different trash.

Champloo
May 21st, 2013, 10:08 PM
Trash bytes are the result of memory pointers and preexisting strings not being cleared for subsequent use. They just get overwritten and the resulting string constitutes the palparked character-string.

You can read more about them on our wiki (http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Trash_Bytes); the first Pokemon parked will have one set of trash and 2-6 will have different trash.

Ah thanks for the link and relevant information. Very much appreciated.

Agonist
May 22nd, 2013, 11:30 PM
This is hilariously illegal (https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4634996).

pokemaniac1519
May 31st, 2013, 08:47 PM
i think that this is legal
Serperior event 22 may (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4662582)
http://serebii.net/events/dex/497.shtml

and this pikachu
pikachu 29 may (https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4727187)
http://serebii.net/events/dex/025.shtml

Hozu
May 31st, 2013, 09:01 PM
Local Wondercards need to be added to the database manually. Until then, they appear hacked.

Kaphotics
Jun 1st, 2013, 10:34 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4239059

Found trash bytes from evo chain Roggenrola, Gigalithe.
>>Gigalithe.

Gigalith (no 'e')

pokemaniac1519
Jun 2nd, 2013, 12:45 PM
Local Wondercards need to be added to the database manually. Until then, they appear hacked.

i need put the .pgf file?

evandixon
Jun 2nd, 2013, 01:36 PM
No, the Pokecheck staff will handle that.

Agonist
Jun 2nd, 2013, 08:46 PM
In BW2 you can find Jellicent (https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4759210) in the Surfing Spots at Undella Bay.

Talpa
Jun 3rd, 2013, 02:45 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4762861

This pokemon is not hacked. However, it is reported as being hacked under the PID section of the legality analysis.

For evidence of its legitimacy, its containing box is linked below.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=box&bid=4&u=talpa

player2
Jun 3rd, 2013, 04:37 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4763637

I thought Volt Tackle was available to the Pikachu line in Emerald. It's now migrated to HeartGold.

BlackShark
Jun 3rd, 2013, 05:03 AM
Volttackle is only available through breeding.
Your Pikachu wasn't breeded so it must be a hack.

Agonist
Jun 4th, 2013, 12:52 AM
Amoonguss (https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4774336) can be found as a stationary Pokeball on Route 11 in BW2.

Mattex96
Jun 8th, 2013, 08:42 AM
This is a link with mine Pokemon why trash bytes are not valid?
https://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=4819315&la

evandixon
Jun 8th, 2013, 08:49 AM
This thread is for reporting faults, not for asking how to make something legal.

But feel free to search the forums for how to fix trash bytes.

(By the way, your Pokemon was deleted so there's nothing at your link.)

Mattex96
Jun 8th, 2013, 08:52 AM
This thread is for reporting faults, not for asking how to make something legal.

But feel free to search the forums for how to fix trash bytes.

(By the way, your Pokemon was deleted so there's nothing at your link.)
sorry but the question is born because i've an heatran and trash bytes are ok, Why??

evandixon
Jun 8th, 2013, 08:58 AM
I don't know because your link is bad.

Rayce
Jun 10th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Gothorita is released with Imprison. If you already plan to update it then disregard this post.

The few, the fortunate, the first Imprison Gothorita with proof. https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4747673

randomspot555
Jun 10th, 2013, 09:51 PM
Gothorita is released with Imprison. If you already plan to update it then disregard this post.

The few, the fortunate, the first Imprison Gothorita with proof. https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4747673

Can't see it because it is set to private

evandixon
Jun 10th, 2013, 09:58 PM
Can't see it because it is set to private
The Pokecheck admins can see it. Otherwise the OP wouldn't say that it doesn't have to be public.

ProjectTitan313
Jun 15th, 2013, 12:35 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4902314 Surfing/Fishing for Cress on route 220 (Platinum) is showing Unknown Encounter, its a route with Surf tiles.

theSLAYER
Jun 16th, 2013, 05:00 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4909799

Event egg Charmander traded from JAP B2 to USA W2.

I believe the REDs shouldn't be there; it should say "Egg was Traded before Hatching"

dcrispell7
Jun 18th, 2013, 09:50 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4921668

Gen 4 Rayquaza with a gen 5 format name, but not nicknamed. It is "Rayquaza" when it should be "RAYQUAZA".

EDIT: According to a PM conversation I had in the shoutbox, the pokemon were uploaded from a gen 5 game after being poketransferred and when the gen 5 GTS filter kicked in to censor the OT, it changed the pokemon's name to lowercase without marking it as nicknamed. I have no clue if that is how it works, but I figured I would mention it so those who actually know how things work can determine if it really is something that needs to be fixed, or if I'm just ignorant :p

Sabresite
Jun 19th, 2013, 07:59 PM
How has everyone been doing? I love the advancement in legality checks! I would love to help out if anyone needs and get back up to speed!

Ultimasamune
Jun 19th, 2013, 11:31 PM
This Seedot from the in-game trade on a Japanese Emerald cart shows up with a "doesn't match PID" flag for its ability.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4822642

Also, getting a butt-ton of red text on in-game trades on a Japanese Black cart (have confirmed this across multiple files).

e.g.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4445592

and

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4492905

and

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4503380

Sabresite
Jun 20th, 2013, 04:30 AM
I am going to be helping xfr, so thank you for the info! Essentially 3rd gen is not supported yet so I will help with that first.

Fourze
Jun 20th, 2013, 09:23 AM
There seems to an issue regarding eggs hatching in Pledge Grove. I RNGed this in Black 1 and traded the egg over to White 2.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4953210

The LA lists it as Unknown Encounter.

Sabresite
Jun 20th, 2013, 02:55 PM
There seems to an issue regarding eggs hatching in Pledge Grove. I RNGed this in Black 1 and traded the egg over to White 2.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4953210

The LA lists it as Unknown Encounter.

My guess is that it doesn't account for possible trades from BW1 to BW2 and since they probably use different hatch algorithms, it will seem illegal. I'll ask xfr to confirm though.

evandixon
Jun 20th, 2013, 03:26 PM
Not sure why it's an unknown encounter, but it looks like the egg was received after it hatched. Maybe that interfered, or maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

Agonist
Jun 20th, 2013, 06:17 PM
Pledge Grove is a known issue, it has been reported before (by Hozu, I think).

Hozu
Jun 27th, 2013, 12:57 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5034837 Phanpy can be tutored Endeavor in 4th gen.

Dark Ray
Jul 1st, 2013, 04:56 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5092268 should be showing the error message about being nicknamed with the species name.

theSLAYER
Jul 1st, 2013, 08:55 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5092268 should be showing the error message about being nicknamed with the species name.

Because.. this particular event Jirachi should not be "nicknamed" at the first place, I believe.

If I recall correctly, for this Jirachi, you collect it and that's all, no nickname prompt.

(let's exclude the fact that IVs are 31 and EVs are 252 and 252 >.< )

Eyedol
Jul 2nd, 2013, 12:38 PM
The met locations for the Pokémon in this box shouldn't be showing up as legal. https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&tid=%40chibix&notpub=1

theSLAYER
Jul 2nd, 2013, 12:56 PM
The met locations for the Pokémon in this box shouldn't be showing up as legal. https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&tid=%40chibix&notpub=1

... Because they're all shiny?

I'm wondering, is this your box or..?


---

Edit:

Because All HGSS Met data should not be "Kanto"...

Hozu
Jul 2nd, 2013, 01:05 PM
You shouldn't be responding to posts here theSLAYER because 1) this thread is to report bugs only 2) you make stupid assumptions and accusations and 3) the other posters have made complete bug reports; there is no need for any additional information, particularly from a known hacker.

Eyedol posted someone else's box to report things - if you paid any attention to the shoutbox you would know that that is the mod Eyedol (who doesn't hack by the way), and the box linked is someone else's. If you're not going to contribute bugs you shouldn't be posting.

As for my bug report... https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5092268 That should not have metadata as it's an event. I think there is also metadata for Black with the event OT.

Edit: Entralink Pokémon used to have a message when the PID is invalid. What happened to that? It's not there anymore for both starters and everything else. Also, it doesn't take into account what Pokémon can come from what game version. ie. Unova dex Pokémon from B/W1. B/W1 exclusives can be obtained in B/W2 via demo mode, then later registering a B/W2 game. Since the chance of that is low, there should be an orange message giving it a caution.

Hozu
Jul 3rd, 2013, 03:01 PM
Chained shiny Pokémon can only come from D/P/Pt, and only on regular grass tiles. Exception to HG/SS Lake of Rage shiny Gyarados encounter.

dcrispell7
Jul 3rd, 2013, 04:08 PM
Chained shiny Pokémon can only come from D/P/Pt, and only on regular grass tiles. Exception to HG/SS Lake of Rage shiny Gyarados encounter.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4758392 An example of the issue Hozu is referring too.

Dark Ray
Jul 3rd, 2013, 11:48 PM
Unnicknamed 4th gen Farfetch'd are showing up as "This Pokémon is not nicknamed but its name doesn't match the species name for its OT's language." when they shouldn't be. https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=546382

XXASHXX
Jul 4th, 2013, 12:33 AM
I am not sure if this applies well but if you are having problems hack checking on gen 5 it is due to the fact that gen 5 files are bigger than gen 4 files. Not sure why but everyone that hack checks on gen 5 seems to have more problems than they did with gen 4. I bet you guys are wondering about gen 6 right? I bet it will be haarder than gen 4 & 5 both. I would recommend Pokemon Secure for hack checking on gen 5 XD. I know a couple of people from that sote that can probably check better than Pokecheck. I am not saying it is bad to use Pokecheck. I am just saying you can get a better check from the checkers at Secure XD.:)

Kaphotics
Jul 4th, 2013, 12:53 AM
I am just saying you can get a better check from the checkers at Secure XD.:)

my

sides

please reread the first post; don't reply unless you have a false positive to report

Bond697
Jul 4th, 2013, 01:17 AM
I am not sure if this applies well but if you are having problems hack checking on gen 5 it is due to the fact that gen 5 files are bigger than gen 4 files. Not sure why but everyone that hack checks on gen 5 seems to have more problems than they did with gen 4. I bet you guys are wondering about gen 6 right? I bet it will be haarder than gen 4 & 5 both. I would recommend Pokemon Secure for hack checking on gen 5 XD. I know a couple of people from that sote that can probably check better than Pokecheck. I am not saying it is bad to use Pokecheck. I am just saying you can get a better check from the checkers at Secure XD.:)

i want to delete this, but it's too funny not to leave.

XXASHXX
Jul 4th, 2013, 02:00 AM
Ah I see now. I have seen some events where the IV's are edited but doed not say hacked It says either was edited or RNG abuse. Why doesn't those say hacked? I would consider those to be hacked since the IV's were edited in some fashion XD. Guys when I posted earlier I was only trying to help you. the files are not the same as 4th gen. Nor was I being funny. I was trying to show support. Someone showing support would have said: True but we need actual reports of errors of the legality checker on Pokecheck. Please read the first post to see all details. That is how you show support especialy when I am a new member and was trying to help. That is how you respond rather than laughing and making fun of the user. Show some consideration where others are concerned. You don't know how that person feels when you respond like that. You are lucky because I am not like that but seriously show support rather than laugh about it. We all strive to do our best to help others. If you think about it we are like a family. You try to help as much as possible rather than be negitive. Sorry I had to add this to my answer but you guys need to know where I stand about negitivity. That I don't tolerate at all. Show respect for those around you trying to help.:)

Guested
Jul 4th, 2013, 08:13 AM
They were laughing at what you said about Secure, because that's way not true.


Anyway:

randomspot555 edit: Because it apparently hasn't been clear enough, this thread is strictly for reporting ERRORS in PokeCheck's Legality Analyses. Anything beyond that is off-topic and may get you an an infraction.
evandixon edit: Because this thread is for reporting errors, this is also NOT the thread to ask why your Pokémon aren't legal. Be sure to search for legality guides before asking somewhere besides this thread.

Hozu
Jul 4th, 2013, 08:56 PM
Apparently, you can use any language cart except JP and KO to register for a US (and presumably any other country except JP and KO) PGL account (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57303795/DW%20Chimchar/FrUSPGL.png). Normally, this doesn't mean anything, but one could do that to get say... a French DW Sinnoh starter. As such, any mismatched exclusives should have an orange warning when there is more legality checks for DW stuff.

esm8m
Jul 5th, 2013, 12:21 AM
Reporting what I'm pretty sure is a false positive:

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=5130117

I know that I bred this Pokémon myself and have never touched a hacking device, yet it says unknown GBA PID.

Thanks!

Dark Ray
Jul 5th, 2013, 07:53 PM
The Italian Movie Regigigas is erroneously showing up as a hacked location, the location matches the other language versions and this sites event database. https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1969560

SeanB1014
Jul 6th, 2013, 03:16 AM
After uploading a Sandile with Aqua Tail (After teaching it that move via Tutor), the Legality Analysis said that the move Aqua Tail is "hacked/event only". I checked my Pokédex 3D Pro and Bulbapedia, and they said they were learnable through tutor.

Hozu
Jul 8th, 2013, 06:25 PM
The Searcher Piplup Wondercard has been recently contributed, so it needs to be added to the database.

Pokémon from My Pokémon Ranch (other than Phione and Mew) have a fixed PID based on the species, and the Phione egg was set to have hatched at level 1 instead of 0. I think there will be more research into how that game generates Pokémon though, as it is done by that game, not the connecting DS game.

dcrispell7
Jul 13th, 2013, 08:51 AM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5230273

Type 1 PID on a WISHMKR Jirachi is not legal.

EDIT: I cannot tell if that Jirachi was deleted or made private, so just in case, here is another link with the same issue https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5152181

Hopefully that one stays up.

WhatHappenedToStairs
Jul 19th, 2013, 02:56 PM
https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=5048414
An Entei that origins from FireRed. It's nicknamed, so it can't be from event (I even checked Bulbapedia, and none of the events match the ID, or OT; 10 ANIV [00010], 10ANNIV/10ANNI/10ANIV/10JAHRE* [06227] and 10 ANIV [06808]) What's the wrong part? IVs. 21/8/3/1/1/1/1

The Roaming IV glitch (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_III#Roaming_IV_glit ch) should cap Attack at 7 plus Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def and Speed at 0. So why this Entei has them higher?

*Four; because French and English both have 10ANNIV as OT

Agonist
Jul 19th, 2013, 04:37 PM
Because the Generation 3 Legality is very poor right now; Sabresite is working with Xfr to improve it.

marcos9191
Jul 19th, 2013, 06:41 PM
I know perfectly how to work the trash bytes in all generations, if you really want my help for pokecheck, send me a pm.

Also I have a list of combinations id / sid invalid in 4th gen.